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magnesium – and epilepsy

Posted by Jonathan Chamberlain on February 23, 2009

Book: Magnesium, The Nutrient That Could Change Your Life _http://www.mgwater. com/rod07. shtml

Wayne was only four years old, but he had been suffering epileptic seizures for 3 1/2 years. Though the seizures were particularly severe during stress periods, he was never completely free of them. Anticonvulsant drugs were used, but none was successful. The boy’s parents were resigned to the probability that he would have a life plagued with severe epilepsy. At that time Dr. Lewis B. Barnett, head of the Hereford Clinic and Deaf Smith Research Foundation in Hereford, Texas, began a series of experiments. The boy became a subject. He was given, in addition to a normal diet, 450 mg. of magnesium gluconate and a thyroid extract. Within two weeks all signs of epilepsy vanished, and within the past three years there have been no signs of the illness. Is It Magnesium Deficiency? In 28 more cases, the same story has been repeated. Children of all ages, stricken with epilepsy failed to respond or responded only slightly to modern drugs and therapy. Placed on high oral doses of magnesium, they experienced stunning improvement. Barnett did not start out to investigate a relationship between magnesium and epilepsy. He says, “My original work was directed toward the role of magnesium in bone apatite, and while investigating that field, it became obvious that magnesium might play a vital role in the physiology of the central nervous system.” He studied the relatively few reports in medical literature concerned with the mineral, and found one by Martin, Meke, and Wertman. These researchers reported that in a state of epilepsy there is a deficiency of magnesium in the blood. Children who definitely suffered from epilepsy were used in the Hereford study. First, their blood magnesium levels were established. In all cases, the levels were below normal, supporting the findings of Martin, Meke, and Wertman. Next Barnett decided to correct the deficiency by giving oral magnesium preparations. “It was hoped that the magnesium supplement would control the seizures,” he told us in an interview. Within a matter of weeks the blood magnesium level returned to normal, and in every case, except one there was definite clinical improvement. “After reviewing most of the literature,” Mr. Barnett says, “not very extensive according to references, it became obvious to me that very little work had been done in this most important and extremely active mineral–especially in its relation to the physiology of the central nervous system.” In his experiments, Barnett used magnesium gluconate, a form of magnesium which is easily absorbed by the system. ‘Taken orally in this form, magnesium is harmless in almost any quantity,” he reports. “The worst that can occur is that some individuals will become drowsy.” This tendency toward causing drowsiness is one of the key properties of the mineral. Spine Concentrates Magnesium It has been known for many years that magnesium is an analgesic. It is found both in the blood and in the spinal fluid, and is the only electrolyte found in higher concentration in the spinal fluid than in the blood. This is an important fact for two reasons: First, testing for a deficiency of magnesium in the spinal fluid is easily done by taking a blood test and deciding what the magnesium level in the blood is. Scientists have found that the lower the blood level, the lower the spinal fluid level. Second, the reason for the high magnesium content in the spinal fluid is that the mineral is necessary for balancing the stimulant effect of body hormones. The purpose of thyroid, gonadal, adrenal and other hormones is to charge up or excite the body. Magnesium and some other substances tend to slow down and relax the system, thus regulating the hormones and achieving a happy medium. When magnesium deficiencies occur–and there are a number of reasons why this can happen–there is no regulation. Among the dangerous results of this state listed in medical literature are heart damage, osteoporosis, periodontal disease, and epilepsy. Another is hyperirritability. “A great many people have a magnesium deficiency manifesting itself in hyperirritability, ” Barnett said. These people may often have a metabolic rate 125 percent higher than normal, he says. Their bodies and minds are greatly overactive, and they are constantly irritated. This is undoubtedly a partial explanation for the high rate of juvenile delinquency, divorce, and emotional instability rampant in modem society. Pituitary Gland Important A magnesium deficiency, according to Barnett, is a prime cause of the three million clinical and 10 to 15 million subclinical epilepsy cases now in this country. Deficiency may occur not from a lack of magnesium in the diet but because of malfunctioning of the pituitary gland. As far back as 1952, researchers observed that people suffering a magnesium deficiency had reactions similar to those in people who had had the Pituitary gland removed. The reason for this is not hard to understand. The pituitary gland, located at the base of the brain, is believed, to regulate the functions of all the other glands of the body. It is the gland through which magnesium works as a prime component of pituitary secretions to regulate the functioning of the other glands. If magnesium is not available or the pituitary is not functioning properly, the body will suffer symptoms of a magnesium deficiency or a pituitary malfunction, depending on how you look at it. (It must also be pointed out that fluoride bonds with magnesium in the blood, into the insoluble magnesium fluoride. This means that the magnesium cannot be assimilated by the pituitary, with the consequent failure of the pituitary to function properly that leads to the symptoms of magnesium deficiency.) Milk Depletes Magnesium The first step in treating the symptoms of magnesium depletion, especially among children, is to eliminate milk from the diet, according to Dr. Barnett. He reports that nine out of ten childhood epileptics drink milk. Calciferol (synthetic vitamin D), like fluorine, tends to bind the magnesium, he says. Milk is loaded with this substance and therefore enhances the problem. The synthetic form of the vitamin is 10 times more active than the natural form–which means it is 10 times more potent in binding magnesium. For this reason the natural vitamin, as found in fish liver oils, will not cause magnesium depletion, but milk can and does. The second step, though new to medicine, is “old hat’ to ranchers. Green grass tetany, the cattle equivalent of human hyperirritability, costs ranchers about a half billion dollars a year. This problem can be effectively treated only by adding magnesium to the animal’s diet, but this must be done before the disease reaches serious proportions. According to Barnett, this same therapy is often effective in humans. He considers dolomitic limestone an excellent form of the mineral. Although compared to the early days of Barnett’s research there have recently been many studies done on magnesium, its relation to epilepsy treatment has been largely ignored. Barnett hopes that now his studies will lead to other clinical experiments, and that eventually doctors will be able to control many cases of epilepsy without using depressant drugs. “By balancing their physiological state, with special emphasis on intracellular chemistry, an easier and finer control of these unfortunate individuals may be possible,” he said.

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Posted by Jonathan Chamberlain on February 18, 2009

It seems that the best pancreatin is the one highest in chymotrypsin. It appears the winner by huge amounts would be Univase Forte, with 45
mg of chymotrypsin per pill.

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Dr Kelley lecture

Posted by Jonathan Chamberlain on February 18, 2009 news

Thanks to Tony Isaacs ( for making this available:

Dr Kelley lecture
> The following recording was made on Sunday afternoon, November 7, 1971
> at the monthly meeting of the Mid-Manhattan Chapter of the
> International Association of Cancer Victims and Friends. It was held
> at the Times Square Center, 410 West 45th Street, New York City. Ruth
> Sackman, the Executive Director, is heard as she introduces Dr.
> William Donald Kelley of the Kelley Research Foundation, Post Office
> Box 89, Grapevine, Texas, Zip Code 76051.
> Dr Kelly holds a degree of D.D.S., and M.S., in education.
> RUTH SACKMAN: “I’d like to tell you something about Dr Kelley. He’s a
> practicing dentist in Grapevine, Texas, Head of the Kelley Research
> Foundation, Fellow of the International College of Applied Nutrition,
> Member of the American Dental Association and many other dental
> societies and nutritional groups. Author of the book “One Answer to
> Cancer”. His research work has been reviewed and published by the
> American Cancer Society in their November December 1970 issue of
> Cancer Journal for Clinicians. He is presently working at Baylor
> university to obtain his Ph.D., as well as lecturing, writing and
> conducting a dental practice. Now I want to add to that, you have here
> a very compassionate man who is terribly interested in helping rid
> this country of this terrible disease. I know many if you would like
> to talk to him personally but he is exhausted. Many people have taken
> up a lot of his time but I do hope you will be able to get all of;
> your questions
> answered today. I am honoured to present Dr. William Donald Kelley.”
> DR. KELLEY: “Well, thank you very much Mrs Sackman. I have a problem
> most of the time getting people to hear me so if I don’t talk loud
> enough why you stand up and scream or something and I’ll holler a
> little louder.
> It’s a real privilege to be here in New York City. You really have a
> fantastic place here. It’s a jumping, live-wire place and we’ve really
> enjoyed it. We’ve been here, in and out of here, for almost a week now
> and we’ve certainly enjoyed being here.
> I want to talk to you today a little bit about the diet in
> relationship to malignant conditions. And first of all, we have to
> understand what we are talking about and to define our terms, and so
> we’ll spend a little time doing that. But the very first thing I want
> you to really understand is that, when you go along with me or I go
> along with you, the basic principal involved here is something that we
> as Americans are going to have to change our way of living. Period.
> This means a whole, complete radical change and the first thing is to
> change our philosophy of living. It’s too easy for us to whip out our
> little ‘ol pocketbook and get out one of these things and just go
> around and plunk it down and buy everything we want. This is the
> philosophy we are into right now and we’ve got to stop that. We just
> can’t buy good health – we just don’t have that much money—no matter
> who you are. It’s going to take more than actual money. It would be
> easy that way and
> I would like to do it and I tried it for a long time and it doesn’t
> work. We’re putting our physicians under a tremendous, horrible stress
> pattern whenever we think that we can take this beautiful instrument
> that God has given us – this most perfect machine that’s ever been
> developed and do anything on earth to it. We can smoke it to death, we
> can junk food it to death. We can stress it all day and all night. We
> can be angry, unhappy and ugly to it. We can mutilate it any way we
> want to and then when it finally wears down a little bit or wears out,
> wel1 then all we have to do is just run and pay the doctor a little
> money and he fixes it up. Well, we’re getting to the point now where
> we can’t do this.
> So this is what we’re going to talk to you today about: —let’s do
> something for ourselves, it’s our responsibility. You know, it’s each
> individual person’s responsibility. When you’re talking in terms of
> cures, we don’t believe in cures. I’ve got several degrees and I don’t
> care how many degrees you have in college and how many degrees you
> have, you can only cure one person and that’s yourself. You can’t cure
> another person. You can only give him help that he can cure himself.
> Put this is the definition of the term cure that we’re talking about.
> You have to do it yourself, your own body does its own curing. The
> doctor may direct you and you may follow this direction but you must
> do your own curing and your own body will cure itself or adapt to the
> stress it has been placed under.
> Now, first of all we want to talk to you so that you can understand, a
> kind or a philosophy in which we orientate ourselves. And we’re
> talking. in terms of diabetes, first. Let’s go into the history of
> diabetes. In all the history of the world up until about 1918 when a
> person developed a gangrenous foot or a gangrenous hand or had
> problems in this area healing, or had a bad injury that wouldn’t heal
> and so forth, then the doctor said “Well, you’ve got diabetes”. And
> they’d cut off a leg or a foot or an arm or something and say, “well,
> you’re cured of your diabetes”, and this isn’t true. Finally, it
> dawned on them around the early 1900’s that diabetes was a systemic
> disease. Up until this time you’d go into the doctor’s office and
> you’d say “Well, what can I eat?” And he’d say, “Well, it doesn’t make
> any difference”. “Just eat whatever you want to”. And; of course, we
> know better than that now. Almost all, an overwhelming amount of
> diabetes is
> controlled by diet alone.
> This is the same developmental level we are on at the present time in
> cancer. We go to the doctor now and when we say “what’s wrong with me,
> “why do I feel so bad?” Finally in a year or two they find out why.
> You have cancer. So they cut it out. So you say, “Well doctor, what
> can I eat?” Well it doesn’t make any difference. “Eat anything you
> want to. Eat a lot of meat and stuff and it’ll be real good for you.
> All the nutritionists have repeated the medical data, like Adele
> Davis, (who has done a beautiful job and she is a wonderful person and
> a good friend) but these people just don’t know what they’re talking
> about. It would be just as bad if you go to the doctor with a good
> diabetic condition and he’d say, “Well, you’ve just got to eat more
> sugar, you just need it, you’re deficient in sugar. You’ve got to eat
> more and more sugar”. Well, it just doesn’t work. So now what I’m
> trying to say is this. Diabetes is the inability of the body to metabolize
> properly, sugars and carbohydrates. Cancer is nothing more than the
> very simple inability of the body to metabolize proteins properly. And
> that’s all cancer is. And no matter how much you want to think of it
> in other terms, you’re going to eventually have to come back to the
> concept that cancer is nothing more than the inability of the body to
> metabolize proteins. It’s a systemic condition. It will not under any
> wildest imagination that you can contrive, this tumor or lump that
> you’ve formed or that develops in your body is not cancer. It is a
> cancerous tumor and is not the condition called cancer, any more than
> a gangrenous foot is diabetes. It’s just the result of a diabetic
> condition. And the tumor mass or glob or lump you have in your breast
> or in your prostate or in your stomach or under your skin or anything
> is nothing more than the end result of a general systemic condition—
> –the inability of the body to metablize protein properly.
> Now we want to know what causes this condition. And this is simply a
> failure of the body chemistry or an upsetting of the body chemistry
> and this is most frequently or can most easily be orientated around
> the function of the pancreas. The pancreas is the body’s natural
> defense against a malignant condition. It is the area in which we
> produce enzymes which metabolize our foods. Particularly proteins. And
> so we go into what fails in relationship to the pancreas. The pancreas
> fails and after the pancreas fails, usually it’s between 8 to 18
> months after the pancreas falls to function properly that you develop
> a little tiny cancer cell in your body and then this starts growing,
> the tumor. You shouldn’t say cancer cell, you should say tumor mass
> but most of us think in terms of cancer. But the tumor begins by one
> little cell developing.
> This grows for approximately 39 months before it becomes large enough
> for your physician to clinically find it. And then when that happens
> he says, “well, you’ve got cancer”. But you’ve had cancer for about 5
> years before he can find it. Occasionally you have a real rapid
> growing tumor and it nay he a year before they can clinically find it.
> A fast growing tumor or we should say a cancerous condition where your
> pancreas really fails real rapidly and you have a complete failure of
> the pancreas and then you develop a malignant condition rather
> rapidly. Generally most, or the largest percentage of our, malignant
> conditions or tumor masses develop over a long period of tine.
> Sometimes they’ll grow and sometimes they’ll recede. It depends on the
> diet. There are occasionally times that the tumor mass will grow for a
> while and then you change your diet and then it’ll dissolve for a
> while. Some people, on and off, have had cancer develop and recede,
> develop
> and recede, for several years, say 10 or 20 years. Which is normal,
> too. Which rather substantiates our theory or our basic concept that
> cancer is nothing but a systemic malfunction of the protein metabolism.
> Now, what happens. There’s about five basic things in relation that
> happen in the body whenever you fail in your protein metabolism or the
> pancreatic failure. One is the over intake of too much protein in the
> body. This is the first thing that happens in our American society. In
> Africa and in India they had very little cancer until the Americans
> came during World War II and introduced peanuts and other high
> concentrated proteins. We felt so sorry for those people over there.
> We introduced great concentrated protein diet of mostly peanuts and
> other products but mostly peanuts. And since their diet has been
> changed, of course, their incidence of cancer is much greater.
> And so what happens? Let me describe the typical beautiful cancer
> developmental person in his early stages. He’s a person, he or she,
> that gets up about 6 o’clock in the morning. This person drinks lots
> of milk, stretches a little bit, puts on their jogging clothes or
> takes some bending exercises or jogs around the block. He comes back
> in and eats ham and eggs for breakfast. He goes down to the office to
> work and gets into the office and about 10 o’clock he’s completely
> fagged. He has a loss of energy, tired. So he gets a package of
> peanuts and eats those. For lunch, on Monday he goes down to the Lyons
> Club and eats roast beef. On Tuesday he goes down to the Kawanis Club
> and eats roast beef. On wednesday, he goes to the Rlotary Club and
> eats roast beef. On Thursday and Friday, the same routine, he goes to
> some club and eats roast beef. Well now he’s gotten along pretty good
> in society end makes enough income that he can afford to be up in the
> world. He
> comes home and demands a steak or at least a half a pound of ground
> meat of some kind for dinner. And he eats this, which is good. And
> finally he tosses the baby up \in the air and plays with him for a
> minute and then flops over on the couch and somebody turn on the idiot
> box in front of him to entertain him for a little while. He sits there
> and reads or watches the idiot box for a while then, along abut 9:30
> he says, “Oh gosh, I’m so hungry. I’ve got to have something to eat”.
> He demands the wife to run out and get him a big bowl of chocolate ice
> cream. He eats that and goes on and dozes on and off between the late
> shows. Finally along about midnight, he’ll get up and has I peanut
> butter sandwich or a ham sandwich and another glass of milk and goes
> to bed.
> Well, this is typical. And if this man had three pancreas, there’s no
> way on earth that he could possibly digest all the protein, the junk
> that he puts down his intestinal tract. So what does he do? The
> symptoms are that he starts belching a lot of gas. He starts passing a
> lot of gas, until it runs through the house like a puffing 1870 Steam
> engine, and making about as much steam. And so we find that this is
> one of the very early signs of a malignant condition. We find that the
> person just cannot handle the protein and their pancreas is totally
> exhausted from trying to digest the junk that is put down the mouth.
> And this just overworks the pancreas, exhausts it. And what happens in
> a normal defense mechanism in a malignant condition, the person eats a
> reasonable amount of protein and the pancreatic enzyme secretes into
> the small intestine and it digests that. There’s plenty of pancreatic
> enzyme left over that goes back into the blood stream, finds its
> way into the body, and when it gets into the body it attacks any
> cancer cells that happen to be forming that day.
> The next most frequent cause of malignant conditions or failure of the
> pancrease function, so forth, is probably the mineral metabolism in
> our diet. Probably one of the best examples of this was a beautiful
> soul, a man in our area, that came in one time. He had cancer so bad
> in his chest, and through his heart and lungs that he could not
> possibly live. He had probably, at most, two months to live. He was a
> veteran. The Veteran’s Administration would not even use cobalt on him
> he was so bad. They said it was no use wasting cobalt on you, you’re
> so bad. So he said, “What am I going to do? I’ve got a real problem.”
> I saw his left side and it was quite enlarged and, there, he had his
> pancreas greatly enlarged. I thought this guy’s got a real pancreatic
> tumor. And so we ran our little evaluation tests on him and we found
> that his pancreas was not infected with malignant condition, that it
> was enlarged because the body knew that it had to defend itself and
> so it was producing about 3 times what he average pancreas would
> produce in enzymes to destroy the tumor mass. But it wasn’t working.
> These enzymes were running right by his cancer and just looking at
> them and saying, Goodby”. Nothing was happening. I said, Well, you’ve
> got a real simple problem there. All you have to have is minerals”.
> And he said, “Well, I don’t have any money”. I said, “Well, the only
> thing I know to do (we were really so poor that we couldn’t afford to
> give him any supplements) , the best thing for you to do is to go down
> to the local place where we feed (and in Texas we have a lot of places
> like this), and you go down and take a bucket or a fruit jar or
> something that you can get out of somebody’s back yard and get a quart
> of black strap molasses and take a tablespoon of this, three times a
> day”. He said, “Well, doctor, I thought you’d give me some fancy pills
> or something or some miracle cure. I said, “I’m giving you what you
> need and I don’t know anything about these miracle cures. That beyond
> my comprehension. I don’t have any rest machines or anything like
> that”. And so he did this.
> In about three weeks he called me back and he said, “Oh doctor, you’re
> killing me”. I said, “How’s that?” He said, “Well, you know my
> diabetes is so bad that I just can’t stand this sugar and its making
> me worse. And that makes my blood pressure so high that I just can’t
> stand it”. I said. OK this is what you need. Now, you’re very
> fortunate because if we can kill you with diabetes or with high blood
> pressure, then you don’t have to suffer the death of cancer”. He said,
> “Well, you’re not very sympathetic. ” I said. “No, that’s exactly what
> you need”. So he said, “OK” and he went on. I Said. “You can cut that
> down from a tablespoon three times a day to a teaspoon three times a
> day”. In three months he called and said, “I just don’t have the
> cancer any more and don’t have the high blood pressure any more and I
> don’t have the diabetes any more”. And I said, “Well, that’s good.
> Wasn’t that what you wanted?”. He said, “That’s what I came to get”. I
> said. “Well you got it now”.
> In order to get minerals into the body we must first have enough
> hydrochloric acid. The hydrochloric acid dissolves the minerals from
> the food so that they may be absorbed. We are assuming of course, that
> the food has minerals in it! We are assuming also that the food is
> grown on good soil and that we are eating real—not synthetic—
> foods. If we fail to have enough minerals in our diet, what happens?
> The blood is going to maintain a mineral level so it must pull the
> minerals out of the bone. In order to get a small amount of trace
> minerals needed, there must be a great destruction of the bone. After
> the bones are destroyed the excess Calcium is deposited end we have
> arthritic conditions. The doctors should consider mineral metabolism
> in their treatment of arthritic conditions.
> But the body has to have the minerals to maintain life. It has to have
> the protein to maintain life. So when this cancer victim starts into
> the loss of pancreatic function, he not only absorbs the bone
> structure to get minerals, he also absorbs the muscle structure to get
> protein. You have to have a certain amount of blood protein. Your
> blood protein has to be at a certain level in order to maintain life
> or you just won’t make it. If you don’t get enough protein in your
> intestinal tract through your diet, you’re going to get it pulled out
> of your muscles. And, therefore, you’re dissolving your own muscle
> system, you’re dissolving your own bone system. This is a typical
> cancer patient.
> In the next most frequent cause of pancreatic failure, number three.,
> here we find that we have blood clots that develop in the body,
> various parts of the body. Whenever a blood clot develops in the
> heart, we call it a heart attack. We get all the preferential
> treatment in the world. We get to lay in bed for a month. We get
> doctors running around and oxygen tents and all kinds of drugs and
> things and attention of nurses. Even your neighbours will mow your
> yard for you and everything. So this is really great. But whenever you
> have a “heart attack” or a blood clot in the pancreas, what happens?
> Well, you have a bad stomach-ache or stiffness in your left side there
> a little bit. This blood clot easy have wiped out 10 to 70% of your
> pancreas and you feel pretty lousy that night. The next morning you go
> to the doctor. Unfortunately our medical world has not developed an
> adequate pancreatic function test. So the doctor says, “you most have
> gotten food poison
> or you must have indigestion” . He treats you for both of them end
> sends you home and lets you stay in bed the next day if you’ve got a
> company with sick leave. If you don’t, if you own your own business,
> you go to work. And you don’t think anymore about it. From that point
> on whenever your pancreas falls, and you start your deterioration of
> the protein metabolism in your body which eventually leads to a mass
> or tumor that develops and is called cancer.
> And the next most frequent cause of pancreatic failure is probably
> emotional cause. You help the guy sitting in the office next to you or
> studying for this next to you for the last 20 years, did a lot of his
> work for him. Now comes promotion time. He has goofed off. You did his
> work and your work too and the boss promotes him over you. And that
> really upsets you. Just blows your mind, as the young people say. And
> this blows something in your mind, blows a fuse or something.
> Psychologically, it really wipes you out. So from that point on the
> nerve impulses from the brain telling the pancreas to work and to
> operate properly, well the message just doesn’t get there. The
> connection developed that should be working there is not working
> anymore. Or the husband runs off with the secretary or something like
> that. Her mother dies or the kid gets run over by a car or something
> is such a shock to you it just really upsets you tremendously. It
> upsets you physically
> or psychosomatically. And these are some of the main basic causes of
> failure of the pancreas.
> Now after the pancreas fails you have this inability to get protein
> into your blood stream through your intestinal tract. You get to the
> point where you just crave protein. You just crave milk. It’s just
> unbelieveable how much you crave milk and meat and nuts because your
> body knows that it need’s the protein. No matter how much you put into
> your mouth, none of its going to get into your blood stream. If we
> assume everything is working, everything is functioning perfectly. You
> grow your food on a beautiful soil and it has a lot of minerals, it’s
> -organically grown, no poisons…
> By the way, the fifth failure of the, excuse me, I forgot the fifth
> failure, of the pancreatic function is enzyme antagonists. These
> antagonistic things are poisons DDT, malathion, aluminum, lead, any of
> the pollutants we commonly think of in terms of what we’re fighting
> daily. The scientists discovered there is such a thing as ecology. Now
> the politicians are getting in on the act. They’re fleecing us more
> and more of our own money to do more things to save us from pollution.
> But pollution is a pretty significant thing in relation to cancer. An
> enzyme is like a little key that goes in and it’ll destroy or unlock
> the cancer cells and metabolize the protein whether it’s cancer cells
> or its beef steak, it’ll do the same thing. These enzymes,
> molecularly, have free-end radicals, and each little free-end radical
> gets stopped up with these poisons and pollutants that we have in our
> society now. This makes them very ineffective. It’s like, if you had a
> key to
> your front door and it doesn’t fit the key to my front door. There’s
> an enzyme that fits the key to digest meat proteins and your cancer,
> which it does. And say you lost the key to your house and you can’t
> get in, but in addition to that, if you have the key and you happen to
> act a drop of solder on one of those little bumps on your key, then
> you’re not going to get into your house. You can try to fit that key
> in your lock all day long and it’s not going to work. And this is what
> happens with the pollutants. It ties up the enzymes. It’s like
> dropping a bit of solder on your key, It ties up the enzyme so that it
> will not be effective. It’s like buying a brand new Cadillac without a
> gasoline tank. It’s all there and it looks nice, but it just doesn’t
> work. It needs all the parts and needs to be free to work properly. So
> these are the five things that are in refernce to the, that are the
> basic, and there are a lot of other little things that are, like .1%
> and .01%o f the frequency and we’ve got lists and lists of things that
> cause the pancreas to fail. But these are the primary things that
> should be considered. Now, let’s assume that a person has the food
> that he takes into his body, grown on beautiful soil with a lot of
> minerals, and so forth, and forget the toxin’s. Then we take it and
> put it into our mouth. First of all, we take it into the kitchen and
> we mutilate it, we destroy it. This is the first hurdle we have to get
> over. We go in and we process it in order to feed our massive
> population. Even if we had good food, it’s hard to get the good food
> to each individual, particularly in an area like we’ve got here. So we
> process it and put a lot of pollutants in it, and that’s bad for you.
> But even worse than that is that we cook it. And when we cook it, we
> destroy the enzymes. We make it, maybe, softer, make carrots soft so
> we can chew a little better, and so forth, but we’ve destroyed the
> enzymes in
> this.
> Now, whenever you take a fruit or a vegetable and you see a bruised
> spot on it, well you don’t want to buy that. But this is the living
> example, all the time, of enzymes working all the time. This is how we
> ripen fruit, is through the enzyme action of the fruit. If you keep it
> at a warm temperature, it’s going to ripen faster. If you keep it at a
> cold temperature, it won’t. It’s the action of the enzymes. And
> whenever you push on a pear, you’re going to have a little bruise spot
> on it, or an orange or a banana or a carrot or anything else. What you
> do whenever you mash or break the cell walls down, then you release
> the enzymes in it, and it starts predigesting. So whenever you take
> the food into your body, most of the food should be raw. You should
> put it in your mouth and chew it 28 times like the book says. What
> you’re doing there is you’re pre-digesting your food. Not with your
> enzymes that’s in your body. You’re not depleting your body of enzymes but
> you’re utilizing the enzymes that are already on the fruit and already
> on the vegetables. And whenever you get them working for you, you’ve
> gotten a long ways down the line. You’re starting to do something
> constructively. And so we must chew this rood properly and release
> their own enzymes. This goes down to the stomach, and there’s the
> stomach without any hydrochloric acid.
> Well, why doesn’t the hydrochloric acid work in the stomach? Why don’t
> we have any hydrochloric acid in the stomach? Well, two primary
> reasons. We need the chlorine ion and… I’m not telling you anything
> different than your doctor does and don’t let anything I tell you…
> you always have to clear it with your physician. And consider that
> possibility. I mean, I’m just telling you some general principles and
> each of your cases may be different. There are two things the whole
> health food industry agrees on and the medical profession agrees on,
> and they both agree on this one thing. And they’re both wrong. And
> that’s no salt. They just get kind of uptight about salt. There’s no
> reason to get uptight about salt, it’s a necessary thing. Don’t
> completely neglect salt. You have too much salt but you need enough.
> So in order to have hydrochloric acid in the stomach you have to have
> enough chloride ions in the body. And then, too, you must
> psychologically, or
> physiologically I should say, turn on the hydrochloric acid.
> What do we do in our society? We go out and we eat a salad and we eat
> it first at the meal. That tells the stomach and the hydrochloric acid
> function to turn off. So turn off. So we don’t need that, we’re having
> salad today. Or we’re having fruit and we really need hydrochloric
> acid particularly for that, right now. So it turns it off. You need
> the hydrochloric acid mostly for meat and for the protein’s. We eat
> things backwards in our society. We should, when we go to the
> restaurant, and they serve you a salad, set it aside and slap the
> waiter’s hand if he takes it away before he serve’s you, and then eat
> it after you eat the meat. Then eat your vegetables and stuff, which
> would be the ideal way. Then you eat the meat first, why? It turn’s on
> your hydrochloric acid. However, if you’re an ulcer prone person, it’s
> OK to eat your salad first. That cuts off the hydrochlorlic acid so
> you don’t get too much of it and that will help you along with ulcers. But
> the vast majority of us don’t have ulcers. Unless it’s specifically a
> regional thing. Maybe in New York City you do but in most of the
> country, not everybody has ulcers. But you might consider that
> possibility.
> Now that you’ve got the food into your stomach with a good
> hydrochloric acid supply, then it comes down into your small intestine
> and here, really, this is where the whole factory blows up. You have
> several factors in the small intestine. It is really significant.
> First of all your pancreas has dumped a lot of enzymes into there, and
> we assume that’s right. Your liver has to dump a lot of digestive
> juices, a lot of bile, and so forth. From the factors the liver dumps
> into your intestinal tract, makes it alkaline. It gets bile and does
> the fat metabolism. If you don’t have a good liver, why then you have
> a strike against you.
> So now we need to balance, and get your liver working better. And this
> is not too bad a job, but anyhow we must consider this possibility. We
> must always have your liver working right. So you have a small
> intestine that really is a beautiful machine and it has millions of
> little finger-like projections out from the inside of the intestine,
> and these little finger-like projections give a mass surface of many
> miles of digestive capacity so that it absorbs. Inside this little,
> villi finger-like, thing sticking out into the intestinal tract are
> the blood vessel’s where the food is absorbed and goes into the main
> artery, goes into the liver, into the body to supply the body with
> food. We’ve eaten so much milk that these little finger-like
> projections into the intestinal tract have got mucus stacked about
> this deep in there. There’s nothing, short of dynamite, that can get
> this mucus out of the way long enough for the food to get up here to these
> finger-like projection’s. So all these finger-like projection’s are
> just coated and filled with mucus. This is why we eat so much and
> we’re so hungry all the time. You take a big `ol fat girl and she is
> starving to death. You look at her and say, “Why, that big `ol girl,
> she ought to quit eating. She just eats like a hog! Sure she eats like
> a hog. This finger down here is starving to death. It sends a message
> up to the brain, “Give me something to eat, my God, give me something
> to eat, for heaven’s sake, I’m starving to death”. After that turns
> on, this poor lady eats and eats and eats and it goes down into the
> intestinal tract, and what happens? Some of the water and a little bit
> of the sugar trickles into these villi that’s working there. She’s
> starved to death for minerals and proteins and vitamins. She lives on
> a little bit of sugar and a whole lot of water. She’s just stuffed
> full of water and sugar.
> Now you take a real skinny ‘ol guy, and he is so skinny, he’d eat you
> out of house and home, and he’s still skinny. There’s no way on earth
> you can put weight on him. He’s suffering from the same thing, he’s
> got so much mucus attached in there. This mucus is selective. On some
> people, it only lets sugar go through, and on some people, only
> protein. On this guy, it only lets protein go through or maybe a few
> minerals, but mostly, just proteins. All he can assimilate is protein.
> He can’t assimilate any of the vitamins and minerals and
> carbohydrates. He’s starved to death. You say, “My God, he’s got a
> tape worm. It’s bad enough to have one kid to feed, but to have one
> kid with three tape worms is an impossible grocery bill.”
> But it coud be the mucus, because you’ve fed him milk all of his life,
> and cottage cheese. Now cottage cheese and milk is so good, such a
> good mucus builder that you can just kill yourself with it. And
> Metracal is anther one, and all these things that you’re trying to
> reduce with. You eat more and more Metrecal, and this type of junk,
> and this wipes you out. You can’t absorb any food. So that’s OK, you
> just go around starving for the rest of your life. And then people
> expect you to function good at work. Your husband expects you to feel
> good all the time and you can’t. It’s impossible for you to starve to
> death and feel good. The boss expects you to perform, and you can’t do
> it. The teacher expects you to perform at school, and you can’t do
> it…because you’re starved to death. Basically, we’re just starved to
> death. There’s great malnutrition in our nation, just unbelievable.
> It’s from many causes, but this is one.
> So let’s assume that, in some miracle way, barring dynamite, we can
> get this mucus out of the intestinal tract. We can digest it off with
> enzymes. And finally get this upper intestinal tract cleaned out. Now,
> a lot of people say, “Well, I’m going to go home and take a lot of
> colonics and enemas.” Well, they won’t ever get up to your small
> intestines, so don’t try that for this reason. Don’t try to take
> enough enemas to clean out your small intestinal tract, because you
> can’t do it. But you can digest this off with enzyme’s. And let’s
> assume you’ve gotten that digested off. Now you’ve got a villi
> sticking out here that’s just coated with food and now it’s ready to
> absorb all this food. You’ve got a blood vessel inside that little
> villi just circulating blood. Then you’ve got two primary factors
> involved there that’s keeping you from getting the food down here to
> this little cell at the end of your finger. One is, this blood vessel
> should be this
> big around, say, and it’s about that big around. You just barely get
> anything through it. Most of this blood vessel is coated with white
> sugar. You’ve eaten white sugar all your life and your body can’t
> utilize all that and it can’t even store it all so it has to do
> something. It can’t even throw it off as waste, you’ve put so much
> down from lemon meringue pie to chocolate eclairs. You’ve just jammed
> your body with so much white sugar it has to store it somewhere. So it
> store’s it on the blood vessel and the blood vessel get smaller and
> smaller and smaller, mixed up with cholesterol and other junk that you
> eat. So you have a little tiny hole and your blood flow should be,
> maybe, a gallon through this vessel in an hour, and maybe you get a
> pint through there. And so that’s a problem. The best way we’ve found
> to clean up this blood vessel is just plain simple “Terribly
> expensive”, black strap molasses. If we could make it more expensive,
> some way, why
> people might utilize it more, but it’s so cheap, black strap molasses
> is so cheap that they won’t ever use it. This sugar can be cleaned out
> with this simple black strap molasses. Take a tablespoon in a cup of
> hot water, twice a day, or three times a day, twice a day is adequate.
> Now, you take grandma who’s senile or grandpa, and you get them on
> black strap molasses a couple of times a day, or three times a day,
> and in about 6 month’s they’ll be sharper than you are and you’ll have
> to hustle to keep up with them. If you don’t live with them, just make
> the nursing home take care of that problem. Anyhow, they’ll run
> circles around you. At the nursing home, you can let them have the
> black strap molasses. And so we get this blood vessel cleaned out. Now
> you’ve got a big vessel there that’s got plenty of freedom, but the
> next factor involved, you just hate to drink water or anything. I
> guess it is kind of dangerous to drink water anymore.
> Your blood is so thick, that it just mopes through there like an old
> tired horse. It just barely chugs through the blood vessels. Instead
> of a gallon a minute going through there, maybe a pint a minute goes
> through there, because it’s just too slow. This is one of the big
> factors in heart attacks. The blood is so thick, you’re dehydrated
> Your actual blood system is dehydrated. The best way to correct that
> is also one of these terribly expensive things, and that is: you take
> a third of a glass of juice, apple juice, pineapple, grapefruit,
> carrot, any kind of juice, it doesn’t make any difference, and
> two-thirds of water, mix that up with a little bit of salt, an eighth
> of a teaspoon, just put a little shake of salt into this and stir this
> up. The salt and the juice solution will force so much liquid into the
> blood stream and dilute the blood stream and get it back into a proper
> volume. You need a good amount of volume in your blood stream. So now
> you get the volume in your blood stream right. Now then you’re really
> wheeling and dealing. Now you’re about ready to do something in your
> body. You’ve got good food going to your stomach, you’ve got it into
> the villi and it’s going up to the cell.
> It comes up to this finger up here, end the finger says, “Wow, I’m
> really getting something. Well now, I can really get some good food,
> and I’m so thankful.” And this little cell up here in your finger
> says, “That’s great”. It starts absorbing all this good food its
> getting. And you really have problems now. You really begin to have
> your problems start. This cell has had to live on junk for so long; it
> says, “I’ve got something good to eat in there and I’m going to unload
> all that junk”. So it throws all that junk out into the blood stream
> and absorbs all the good stuff out of the blood stream. Then your
> blood stream is loaded with junk or toxins. You begin to feel lousy.
> This fill’s your blood stream so much with toxins, and the blood
> stream can’t handle it, so it backs up into the lymph system. Your
> lymph system fills up and then it swells and stretches and you get
> achy, and hurting all over. You get sick and nauseated and headachy
> and you loose your
> appetite. I’m going to insult you for sure now. I hate to do this to
> you, but you’re going to have to take an enema at this point. It takes
> about three weeks after the cells really start working that you get
> the loss of appetite, you get the head-achy feeling, you just feel,
> generally goopy. That’s the best way to describe it, goopy, ugly sick.
> You just feel lousy, in general. And so you need to take a good enema.
> Coffee enemas are good, or anything to keep the colon cleaned out, to
> help the liver unload the poisons. And the kidneys– keep drinking up
> fluids to keep the kidneys washed out. Keep the urine flowing
> beautifully, because the kidneys and the liver have to dump this
> poison out. The lungs, take good breathing exercises. Go huff and puff
> around the block until you sweat. Get some of this poison out. Anyway
> you can get it out of your body, get it out.
> You finally get this balanced. You get the poisons coming out of your
> system, and you get food back in there and this cell starts
> re-growing. It starts having a normal, healthy environment to live in.
> You’d be surprised. It really perks up and you begin to feel good. You
> might feel good one day and then feel lousy for two or three. But
> every once in a while, you wake up and just feel like you did when you
> were 14 or 15, and feel like you could whip the world with one hand
> tied behind your back. And then your problems begin. This cell up here
> has waited 20 years to get something good to eat and says, “My God, I
> don’t want to stop this”. It continues that same message up to the
> brain, “Give me something to eat. I’m hungry.” It’s just gotten into
> the old habit of repeating the message. It’s afraid it’s never going
> to get anything else to eat, and it doesn’t want to stop now. It wants
> to store up a bunch good stuff, because you may get back into the
> old problem you used to have before this. You really need a
> psychiatrist at this point, because it’s really going to be tough.
> This thing continues to send a message to the brain and unless you
> have a lot of self will, and so forth, you’re going to get wider and
> wider and wider. You’re going to keep on eating as much as you always
> did. And when you keep on eating as much as you always did, instead of
> assimilating 5% of it, you’re going to assimilate 95%. You’re going to
> get fatter and fatter and fatter.
> So the problem is, that you must start at this point to learn to put
> your hands firmly on the table and push back. And do it quickly, about
> a second or two after you sit down to eat. You’ll eat about one-tenth
> as much as you normally used to eat. And this is important, but I
> guess you can get fat if you can afford a new wardrobe and everything,
> but it’s better to learn to eat less and keep your body in good shape.
> Now you’ve got your body functioning normally and there’s no way you
> can help but get well after this point. No matter what you do now,
> it’s too late, you should have gotten there sooner, because you’re
> going to get well now. And this is the primary thing.
> Now, you want to Know: Do I have cancer or don’t I have cancer? How
> can I tell. The doctor’s not allowed, it isn’t his fault, it’s our
> political situation.. There are many tests available at the present
> time that he can use, and you can get through this organization. You
> can do it yourself. They can tell you how to get these tests. But your
> doctor has a real problem. You can send your urine samples off to the
> Philipine Islands or to Mexico and you can get back the results of a
> test that you have cancer or you don’t have cancer. There’s a little
> test that we developed in our research. You punch a little hole in
> your finger and take a drop of blood out on the end of your finger and
> you can tell, pretty much, whether you have the condition of cancer,
> quote, bad protein metabolism, unquote. You may not have a tumor mass
> developed yet but you’re on your way. You can tell by the way this
> little drop of blood comes out on your finger. It’s very simple. That
> may cost you 35 cents or so. If that’s not too expensive for you, you
> can try another test that’s a little bit more expensive than that. It
> take’s about 3 or 4 dollars.
> If you want to know whether you have cancer or not, you go down to the
> drug store and buy some pancreatic enzymes. Get Pancreatin, made by
> Lilly Co., Parke-Davis, or whatever the druggist has at the drug
> store. Get a bottle of a hundred tablets of triple strength. five
> grain Pancreatin, no matter what company makes it, it doesn’t make any
> difference to me, or it shouldn’t make any difference to you unless
> you like the color of the pill. You take about five of these, four or
> five of these after each meal for about three weeks. If you do nothing
> else but just do this, at some time within the three weeks, you’re
> going to start feeling lousy. You’re going to start getting headaches,
> you’re going to just get to feeling goopy sick. You’re going to start
> to have a loss of appetite and maybe get nauseous. If any of those
> things appear to you during this period, you can rest assured that you
> have a malignant condition in your body with actual cancer cells
> present. So what do you do then? You say, “this is killing me”. Like
> my brother. I told my brother to go see his doctor, and I told him to
> do this. He did this and in about 6 days he got just violently sick.
> He felt real lousy, and got the headache and then the loss of appetite
> and everything. He said, “Why I feel so bad, this is terrible. You’re
> tryin to kill me”. He took the rest of his bottle and threw it down
> the drain and flushed it and stomped on the lid. He said, “You can’t
> do this to people”. I said, “Well they’re going to have to go through
> with it some way or another.” Finally, I convinced him that he had a
> big enough malignant condition that he should do something about it.
> He did.
> Whenever this happens, when you get this real poopy sick feeling, then
> stop taking the enzyme for about five days. Let the body clean out
> these poisons, then start again. And keep doing this on and off. The
> second time you start it, start taking them again, you may not be
> taking them for more than 10 days or a week before you feel sick
> again, or feel lousy. But keep taking them, until you can take them
> for about three months without feeling bad. Then you’re pretty well
> clear of the condition. And after that if I were you, I’d take at
> least three after each meal for the rest of my life, particularly if
> you’re over 40 years of age. This is a good thing and you need them to
> help the pancreas. It’ll supply the enzymes that the pancreas doesn’t.
> Until the medical profession finds a real good test for pancreatic
> function, I believe that I would do this. If you are over 40, I would
> take some pancreatic enzymes because this would really be a help to your
> general health. Now pancreatic enzymes do not work like cortisone, or
> some of the hormone factors work where if you take too much of it,
> it’ll destroy your pancreas. It won’t do this. Pancreatic enzymes are
> amino acid or protein themselves. What you don’t use for digesting
> food and cancer, you’ll use them to build new cells.
> Now if you detoxify yourself and you’ve got your good nutrition to the
> individual cells, you’re well on your way to recovery from almost any
> chronic disease. This doesn’t do much for infectious disease or
> traumatic conditions. The medical profession is quite skilled in this
> and you always need a doctor. Don’t throw your doctor out the window.
> He does as much as he can. He just isn’t skilled in nutrition yet, but
> he is going to have to be in order to survive in this world that’s
> coming up in the next 20 years. He’s going to have to be more skilled
> in nutrition.
> Now let’s talk about the diet that you need. It would be good for
> anybody, but it’s good, too, for malignant conditions. There are some
> things that you should not do. And let’s run through those first. You
> should not eat any animal proteins after 1 o’clock. This is, milk,
> meat, cheese and meat of all kinds, animal flesh products. You should
> also include in this after I o’clock, peanuts. You ought not eat
> these. These are the main things to not eat. Now also you must not eat
> white sugar or white flour at any time. Just give that up for a lost
> cause. Now all these things, this would be good for anybody. Then
> things you can have in the diet. You can have all the fruits and
> vegetables you want, all the grains and nuts and cereals that you can
> handle. Of course there are some individual differences. Some things
> you can’t handle. If you need some things you can’t handle, why then
> you just can’t handle it. So don’t keep on forcing yourselves, but
> most people
> can. We’re just making a general statement. You can eat almost
> anything else. And it’s to your advantage to eat everything you can
> raw. I don’t think we’ve’ turned on our stove in the last 6 months.
> Oh, yes, we do once in awhile, we make some popcorn, I forgot about
> that, and occasionally we make a pot of tea. We turn the stove on to
> heat the water for tea. But at our house we never cook anything. It
> just never dawns on us to turn on the stove, unless we want a little
> hot water for tea. And that doesn’t happen very often.
> Now a lot of people discredit popcorn. Popcorn is a pretty good food.
> And probably the only “junk” food you can eat. I mean, like you go out
> to a movie’ or anything. It’s probably the best of the junk food that
> you can eat. Dr Walker is death on popcorn but I can’t see this yet. I
> haven’t been able to justify their bad position or their condemnation
> of popcorn. Many civilizations live on corn and it’s a very good food.
> It makes me feel like I’m really out sinning, whenever I go out to a
> movie and eat popcorn. So it’s really nice to have something that you
> can eat without really hurting yourself.
> Now there are a lot of questions that you have, that will get us into
> a technical discussion and we can rattle on. I’ve got nothing to do
> til 7 o’clock in the morning, so I’ll be glad to answer anybody’s
> questions. They say you can’t smoke in the building, so if any of you
> are having a nicotine fit now, why run out and relieve this fit. And
> then come back and we’ll have a Is this what we’re going to do?
> Ruth Sackman announces question and answer period after intermission.
> Questions and Answers
> Q. What does a person do who is unable to tolerate raw foods anyway?
> A. Of course you are going to have to cook them and take an
> over-abundance of enzymes. They make a vegetable enzyme that works
> well at a high PH. Like a PH which is almost pure acid and there are
> some companies, such as The National Enzyme Company in Chicago who
> manufacture them. You take this plus pancreatin enzymes if you can’t
> eat raw food. You take this with the meal—a cooked meal.
> ~ Q,, What is the name?
> A. The name is actually called N-Zines, made by the National Enzyme
> Company in Chicago, Illinois.
> Q. Would you say something about the diet, i.e. morning. noom and
> evening meal, for people.
> A. We generally don’t like to plan menus for anybody because we find
> that if I tell you to eat this and you say, “I don’t like this, I an
> going to get off the program.” I’ll tell you the routine most people
> use—-the 14 grain cereal for breakfast. They take carrot juice
> mid-morning and mid-afternoon. Fish for lunch and then have things
> like a salad or vegetables for lunch or supper also. Nuts. The best
> nuts to eat are particularly almonds with each meal and if you want,
> you can eat a lot of nuts like cashews, filberts and brazil nuts.
> These are good. These are also good for people who are hypoglycemic.
> This is the best thing to maintain the blood protein level. This will
> give a lot of strength and relieve symptoms better than most things
> that are available.
> Q….You treated this awhile ago. Can I eat raw foods with an ulcer
> present? Do you recommend anything in particular, say an oil before a
> meal to ease the symptoms?
> A. You’ll have to work that Out with yourself and your physician. You
> try to eat as much raw foods as you can. You can juice a lot of
> carrots and use a lot of other juices, spinach and potatoes. Used in a
> juice form, I don’t think will upset your ulcers too badly. Maybe as
> the doctor said, “take an oil before a meal”. Anyhow, you will have to
> work it out for yourself, with your physician.
> Q…Would you State if there is any corrollary between meat and cancer?
> A. That is what we spent time talking about up to now. The
> correllation is that 85% of the total cancer problem today is caused
> by the over-intake of animal protein. There is a definite
> correllation. Now if you want to stamp out this 85% just stop eating
> meat, milk, cheese and peanuts after one o’clock. Then our whole
> society will change. It will be a great, beautiful change. The
> American Dairy Association was quite upset with me but then that’s
> tough. I wish the day would come when a restaurant could charge $10
> for a good salad. They would make their money and you would be healthy
> and happy and live longer and make more money so you could afford the
> $10 Salads. I don’t know what to do about the American Dairy
> Association. I guess have more baby cows, because that’s where milk
> belongs in 1,000 lb. babies. Maybe we can have more cows for some
> reason. But I think as a society, we ought to change our habits and
> it’s about time we did it.
> Q. Do you have anything to say about collagen diseases? Do you think
> your plans diet, etc. and enzymes could help?
> A. Any systemic disease or chronic disease of aging process etc, could
> be helped by nutrition. Your body God designed to work, functions
> beautifully almost all the time. Cancer is just a minor disease. In
> fact, we weren’t interested in cancer for a long time after we knew
> what to do about it. We were interested in a lot of other disease
> syndromes. Whenever you get a body functioning properly, then you’re
> going to get well and there is nothing you can do about it. Just get
> it right and you’ll have health regardless.
> Q. You recomend protein supplements. I have found those made of soya
> lactose or animal protein, high in protein. Are they therefore,
> harmful to cancer patients?
> A. We recommend protein supplements because we want to get the right
> amount of protein into the body. If you don’t have enough protein in
> the body, the cancer is going to grow a lot more rapidly because your
> own natural defence system has to have protein. Your pancreas has to
> have protein to produce the enzymes which are protein and amino acids,
> which are necessary to defend yourself against cancer. This is why the
> grape cure works so beautifully for a short period of time and after
> that you just fall apart. Whenever you take the grape cure, you take
> no protein at all. Then what enzymes are available in your pancreas go
> directly to work on your cancer and your cancer is absorbed at a rapid
> rate. Then, if you take enough grape juice to give you energy and
> strength you will go on beautifully, thinking you have it made. But
> all of a sudden something happens you collapse.
> This is because you have depleted the body of the raw material
> necessary to manufacture enzymes for your own self-defence. So we
> regulate by taking some protein supplements in the diet. We make sure
> you have enough, but not too much. This is best brought out in a study
> we did where we took a lot of young people, that is, I straighten
> young people’s teeth. I took a blood sample of these kids. They took a
> lot of protein supplements from the health food store and their cancer
> count rose and rose and went on up. They got tired and got the general
> cancer pooped-out feeling from the cancer syndrome. So then they
> thought they would get off these protein supplements because they were
> too expensive. Naturally, they were so tired. The cancer was
> developing so rapidly in their body, they didn’t feel like exercising
> and doing all the things they did and all the effort it takes to build
> muscles. So they give it up and then their cancer count would go back
> to normal.
> Next year they would start in again. We did enough study on this to
> know that if you take extra protein supplement’s, you should take the
> enzymes to help digest them. Some of these kids we told to take enzyme
> with the protein, we did a double study on them. The ones who took the
> enzyme went ahead and developed their muscles, felt good and played
> football, weight lifting, did their studies in school and had no
> problem. The ones we didn’t tell to do this, they just washed
> themselves out. So protein is important. Sowhenever you take protein
> in extra amounts, you need to take an enzyme with it. Adele Davis and
> many of the medical authorities say you have to have 150 grams a day.
> Further Studies, produced I believe, at Loma Linda College at Medicine
> at Los Angeles, found if you are an athlete in training or a heavy
> Steel worker, you need 50 gram. The rest of us who sit around and do
> nothing every day don’t need that much. We need a lot less than 50 grams.
> Don’t get disturbed if you don’t have 100 gram a day.
> Q. Please give a menu for a period after the 6 day purge and fast period.
> A. We don’t give menus. We tell you things. What to do and not to do.
> You go on your normal healthy diet. We need to talk about the 6 day
> purge. 3 days of purging and 3 days of fasting—that may be too hard
> on a person. If that’s too hard, you ought to do 1 day purging and 1
> day of fasting every 2 weeks and then go back to the normal healthy
> diet after that. We don’t give menus. We’re in the process of
> developing a print-out computer system that will do this and someday
> we’ll get this done.
> Q. Where can you get the urine test?
> A. You’ll have to ask Cancer Victims and Friends. Mrs Sackman here
> will be able to tell you that later.
> Q What is the value of coffee in the coffee enema? Do you obtain the
> same benefits by drinking coffee?
> A. Well, we have people who want to know if they can have cream and
> sugar with their coffee enema. The advantage Dr. Gerson found is that
> the coffee enema goes directly from the colon into the liver. Shocks
> the liver to a great extent, helps the liver dump a lot of its poisons
> and toxins out of the liver back into the intestinal tract. It cleans
> the body out rapidly. It stimulates the body, detoxifies the body.
> Drinking coffee generally works just the opposite. It destroys the B
> vitamins and shouldn’t be used. I just don’t recommend coffee
> drinking. I never have. The only contra-indication when you shouldn’t
> take a coffee enema too often is when you have a badly affected
> adrenal gland. When your adrenal glands are completely exhausted, you
> should limit your coffee enemas to 2 or 3 a week. But when we first
> started this system, we were scared to death, like everybody else is
> when they first get cancer. For example, we had a beautiful little
> girl about
> 20 years old with a bad malignant condition. She would take large
> doses of the pancreatic enzymes which was dissolving the tumor too
> rapidly. She felt real bad. So she would take coffee enemas every 3 or
> 4 hours. She did this for several weeks and then she cut it to 2 or 3
> a day. Then she cut it down to I a day. As the cancer dissolved and
> she got better, she cut it down to 1 a week, for awhile. Then the
> cancer was over. But most people usually can’t take more than 1 coffee
> enema a day. How can you tell when you have had enough coffee enemas?
> If you take a coffee enema and you feel better, you are not taking
> them too close together. If you take a second coffee enema and it
> doesn’t make you feel better, then you are taking them a little too
> close together. So you wait-. If you take one in the morning and it
> doesn’t make you feel better then you had better skip a day and take
> it every other day. That would be the best criteria for that.
> Q. On detoxification day, are the supplements discontinued?
> A. We have answered this many times. It doesn’t really make a lot of
> difference. We generally Send a routine answer — that it is better
> to stop the supplements during the detoxification period.
> Q. This Concerns people who have had radiation therapy and
> chemotherapy. How does this affect their chances eventually in using
> your therapy?
> A. Whenever you take chemical therapy you are going to wipe out your
> liver and if you have a strong enough liver, you can take chemical
> therapy. It’s alright to take chemical therapy if your liver is strong
> enough. It doesn’t interfere or help with our system. Sometimes it’s
> important to take it to save your life because some-times it takes 2
> or 3 weeks for the nutritional program to really become effective. You
> may not have that much time. Chemical therapy doesn’t matter to me; it
> is just between you and your physician. Radiation is a different
> problem. Legally, you have to do what your physician says you should
> do; or at least discuss it with him and work this through between you
> and your physician. The only time that I found that I would take
> radiation therapy of any kind would be in extreme pain situation.
> Where the pains are so bad that drugs could not possibly help, then
> you might have to use radiation to destroy nerve tissue. Eventually
> radiation,
> to me, slows down the circulation in the area and prohibits the
> natural technique, natural cure taking place.
> Q What Substance would interfere with your testing of the blood?
> A, Nothing will interfere with it.
> Q, Estrogens?
> A. Nothing, absolutely nothing.
> Q. How does one get to you in Texas?
> A. We are really not interested in working very hard. It costs us too
> much money. For every patient we take, it costs us more money than the
> patient can possibly pay. We are basically a research organization and
> we do primary research and we are under individual grants from private
> people. The only way you can get to us is to have a written request
> from your physician and your physician will have to send you. Then it
> takes about a month or so before you can come to see us. We are only
> allowed by the people who pay the bills to take about 3 people a day
> because it costs too much. If you had about $500 that you wanted to
> spend, well—– we just can’t take more than a limited number of
> people a day.
> Q. How long does one stay there?
> A. You stay about half a day. It doesn’t take long to do this. If you
> fly into Dallas and rent a car and drive over to the heart of downtown
> Grapevine, you finally discover someone in town who knows us. You come
> in and we test you. It takes about 3 hours to run the test and about
> an hour to talk to you and tell you all you need to know and then you
> go home and do it. Many times we make a cassette tape for your
> physician and explain this to him and you, but we can not work or take
> anybody at all without the request of their physician.
> Q. Are there certain patients you consider beyond the scope of your
> treatment? That is too far gone or something like that?
> A. Yes. If they rate a 1,000 on our scale. We find that there is no
> hope for them. We have a scale from 0 to 1,000. 0, you have no cancer
> at all and 1,000 the cancer is functioning perfectly and there is no
> hope. We have never had anyone rated 1,000 on our scale who made it.
> We’ve had probably 3 that rated 1,000 or above, and they did not make
> it. A lot of times people rate 950 and 960 and this gives them about a
> 20% chance of making it. But the ones that don’t make it are the ones
> that don’t even follow the program. They just say it’s not worth the
> effort and they don’t have the stick-to-itness to stick to the
> program. Occasionally we lose some.
> Q. Here’s a person who has an exceptionally large fibroid tumor of the
> uterus. She was wondering if she could be helped by followinq your
> regimen?
> A. Fibroid tumors. We don’t give any predictions. We’ve had many
> successes with fibroid tumors by balancing the body chemistry. The
> only thing I know is that there is an improper mineral balance in
> fibroid tumors and sometimes proper mineral balance will correct it.
> Q. There as a person who has been taking pancreatin with each meal and
> she does not get sick from it but is getting progressively worse. Do
> you have a comment?
> A. Progressively worse with malignancy?
> Q. She thinks.
> A. Well, chances are you are not assimilating your food or there is
> something wrong, probably the assimilation factor in the body is bad
> or she may be too far gone, but I doubt that.
> Q. Do you have anything in particular to say about the use of kelp or
> iodine, or are they a part of your general mineral program?
> A. The kelp and iodine should be a part of your general mineral
> program. You can take all the kelp or anything you want for
> mineralization. Vitamins and minerals.
> Q. One person would like you to repeat your enzyme quantity and procedure
> A. Well, if you just want to test yourself and see whether you have a
> malignant condition. I think that’s what they are referring to. You go
> to the drug store and get a bottle of at least 100 triple strength
> pancreatin tablets. You take 14 of those after each meal for about a 3
> week period and this should either lower the boom on you or relieve
> your mind. If you feel lousy or nauseated or have loss of appetite
> during this time, well then, you had better check into it a little
> more seriously. If you feel no affects—well then, you don’t have to
> worry.
> Q. Do you think you might help diverticulosis?
> A. Well, diverticulosis is from a lot of causes, but anytime you get
> your body functioning normally and healthy, it will be some help to it
> (the diverticulosis) . And get your body toned properly too. You can’t
> function properly until you get some minerals and the body chemistry
> balanced. A lot of times it does help. It doesn’t always.
> Q. This person is upset about your statement about protein. She
> wonders just what you mean. I think you should distinguish, say,
> animal and vegetable.
> A. We were talking about no protein in our book. We should have said
> no animal protein. Vegetable protein can use a different enzyme for
> digestion— that is not the same enzyme that is used for cancer. You
> can have vegetable protein like nuts and all the vegetable proteins
> are real good. Some animal protein up until one o’clock but you better
> eliminate animal protein after one o clock.
> Q. Why?
> Q. Would you say what the different juices are? Do you have a preference?
> A. Different juices are significant. The Germans thought they could
> improve on our program when they got the basic program. So they
> started giving massive doses of Vitamin A which they thought we got in
> our carrot juice. They thought there was a significant factor in
> carrot juice. So, “we are just going to give our patients Vitamin A by
> injection, etc. and by mouth and So we won’t have to mesa with juicing
> carrots.” (Good carrots are hard to get in Germany. They went ahead
> and got a lot of Vitamin A. So what happens in this case? They forget
> one significant factor, and that is that we are not only interested in
> the Vitamin A because it helps break down the tumor wall and allows
> the chemical therapy or the enzymes to come in and destroy the tumor,
> but in addition to that, if you also have carrot juice you also have a
> great supply of minerals and so that is the factor they are
> forgetting. This is why their rate of success is not as great as ours is,
> because they have bypassed the concept of mineralization of the body,
> and you must do that. Another thing, if you mix carrot with the celery
> juice you have a good chance of balancing the phosphorous, potassium
> and sodium balance in the body and this is significant.
> Q. I was thinking about the centrifugal juicers, the press juicers, etc.
> A. Press juicers versus centrifugal force juicers. The test we’ve
> run—the press juicers are 2% better than the centrifugal force
> juicers, but 900% harder to do. When we find most people don’t feel it
> is worth the effort. The 2% extra that they get from a press is not
> worth the 900% cleanup trouble that they have with the press types. It
> is up to you. There is a 2% factor there.
> Q. Do you advise any other Vitamins and mineral supplements?
> A. When we test for individual persons and we can provide an
> individual program. But you Should have a multiple vitamin as we have
> listed in supplement #1. Our concept is a good strong multiple
> vitamin. Of course, a natural is better than a drug store variety or a
> synthetic variety. This is what our ultimate goal is — to get you
> off all supplements and to get you on 14 grain cereal, black strap
> molasses. That’s all the supplements you need. But until you get your
> body chemistry balanced, why you are going to have to take some
> supplements.
> Q Someone has said that the 14 grain is a very difficult food to take.
> A. That is right, until you learn to live with it. There are some ways
> you can doctor it up a little bit to get it down. At night if you mix
> some honey or raw sugar with it and let it ferment during the night,
> its helps it. Some people take and put almost boiling water over it at
> night and put it in a wide mouthed thermos and it tastes more cooked
> the meat morning. It doesn’t seem to injure it any. And then you put
> any kind of fruit on it the next morning, it makes it taste better.
> You eat it for 3 or 4 weeks and you get off it and you’ll miss it. It
> is something like your boss. You like to have something to gripe
> about. This is a good thing and then you become friends at the end of
> stout 3 or 4 weeks.
> Q. A person has a question concerning the pancreatin at a pharmacy.
> Can you obtain a similar or about equal pancreatin at a health food store?
> A. All pancreatin is a natural product. A lot of people say they
> wouldn’t eat the kind that comes from a drug store because it is not
> natural, but it is; it all comes from the same pig or cow. We find you
> have to watch the dosages. Approximately what you need is a 1,000 mg
> of NF or single strength pancreatin. You need about 3,000 mgs single
> strength pancreatin with each meal. That’s the ultimate criteria. So
> if you take about 4,000 mgs single strength pancreatin with each meal,
> this the normal maintenance dose for the average person over 40.
> Q. There have been several questions concerning your blood teat,
> i.e.the opposition raised by the medical profession. Also people would
> like to know something about how it is done – the mechanics of it.
> Would you care to comment upon that?
> A. Our blood test has never been critized by the medical profession.
> They have an injunction against me for publishing and printing and
> distributing my book which they say is the practise of medicine. This
> book is not practising medicine. Everything you read in this book they
> say is the practise of medicine and of course, this should not be
> done. No other court and no other society has ever said that a book
> can practise medicine, but in Texas it’s a different horse. They want
> the book stopped so they use any method. So we are in the process of
> going to the Supreme Court about this. If you have any extra shekels
> to help us go to the Supreme Court or if you can write a letter’ to
> the N.H.F. and ask them if they would support us, not only financially
> but morally, and to give the weight of their organization behind us.
> Freedom of the press is what we’re involved in. They got an injunction
> for practising medicine, which I never do and never have done or
> intend to do, because I’m not that smart in medicine and I’m not
> inclined that way anyhow. I just want people to be nutritionally sound
> people and I am only a flunky for your doctor. I don’t ever try to
> tell him what to do. If he asks me some advice and what would I do, I
> tell him. If it works–that’ s good. But he is still responsible.
> There are so many things that happen in a person’s life that you have
> to have a doctor and I’m not trying to discredit doctors or eliminate
> them. They are just going to have to go the nutrition route and they
> might just as well do it now. They are going to do it.
> Now in relation to our test….Before I got involved in this, we studied
> the whole history of medical persecutions of independent researchers.
> And so they want to know the value of our test and how it is done
> mechanically. The people who finance this—its such an expensive
> operation, they elected in the beginning when studying the history of
> persecution by the medical profession, that never at any time (unless
> they change their minds). to give any information about the mechanics
> of our test. All we do is test and tell you what to do. It’s like
> Jesus said, “after all is said and done, it’s what works that
> counts”.. “And by the fruits you shall know them”. If we tell you what
> to do and you do it, why then that is all we are interested in anyhow.
> The medical profession historically asks a guy how his test is
> run–then they find out how to do it—then they wipe him out and make
> their big claims that they have discovered something new—and then
> put him in
> prison. Then about 2 or 3 years later there is a great discovery and
> they come up with this test and everybody thinks they are heroes
> again, which they are, but the way they get to be heroes is not too
> good a method. So I don’t want to get involved in that method or get
> wiped out myself. So the people who finance this will not allow any or
> this information to become available until this is socially acceptable
> and then we’ll talk about it later.
> Q. There have been quite a few questions on your previously mentioning
> urine testing.
> A. Urine testing is a good thing. Dr. Beard, way back in the early
> 40’s or even before then, developed a urine test that tells whether
> you have cancer or not and it is a very good test. It’s about 95 to
> 98% correct and accurate. What is measured is the gonadotrophin. There
> are only two times in the life cycle of the human being when you have
> gonadotrophins excreted in the urine. One, when you are pregnant and
> one, when you have cancer. If you are not pregnant and this test shows
> up gonadotrophin, then you have cancer. Now the problem involved in
> this is that Dr. Beard is one of those people who is going to save the
> world and tried to force his test on the medical profession. The drug
> companies accepted this test when made the two hour pregnancy test kit
> out of it. Now they have a 2 minute pregnancy test. They are using the
> same principal that he developed and the same system. They are making
> a fortune out of it. Dr. Beard is starving in Fort Worth,
> Texas. The man who developed it all has been persecuted, stopped from
> talking and this is the standard procedure. I talked to the companies
> who produce these tests and I told them five years ago that if they
> don’t stop telling the doctors that this is a pregnancy test kit, they
> would run into trouble. About six months ago they finally admitted
> they had run into trouble because they have had so many false
> positives on these tests. The urine test which they use for pregnancy
> —they told too many women they were going to have a baby. That
> either upsets them or makes them happy and nothing happens. They get
> so many raise positive tests so I told the company five years ago that
> they have to tell the doctor’s that this test will test for pregnancy
> and cancer. These are available in every laboratory in every state and
> every medical supply company. The test they use for pregnancy is quite
> crude and it can be refined just a little bit and can be used for cancer
> detection. And maybe someday, in the next 3 or 4 years, the medical
> profession will socially accept this thing as a cancer test.
> Q. Impossible to hear from the tape.
> A. ? First part of answer also to understand Most people, as I told
> you, today whether they are fat or not, are starving to death for
> minerals.
> Q. Quite a number or questions concerning low blood sugar here and
> something like black strap molasses.
> A. Blackstrap molasses will make the symptoms more severe. In
> hypoglycemia you can get your minerals some other way if you want to.
> I don’t think anybody really understands, or not very many truly
> understand what hypoglycemia really is. And if we ever get a publisher
> who will publish our works—I have written another book about the
> same size that our cancer book is—-it will completely eliminate all
> the hypoglecemic problems if we can get it published someday. It is as
> simple as cancer.
> Q You make quite a distinction between peanuts and nuts. Will you
> comment please?
> A. Well peanuts are a high protein nut. The others are too, but
> peanuts are really a legume and not a real true nut. Also there is a
> mould called aflotoxin that is characteristic of it. Unless you have a
> good source or peanuts and check each one before you eat them, or get
> a good organic source where they don’t have mould on them, it’s a
> little bit risky to do this because they use this aflotoxin as an
> irritant to cause cancer in laboratory animals.
> Q. You’ve been talking quite a bit about pancreatin, but you haven’t
> said too much about HCL as a supplement.
> A. HCL is a good supplement and should be used at the beginning of
> each meal. Maybe one HCL tablet if you tend to have a low HCL content.
> One or the best ways to tell when you need HCL is, if you take 5 meal
> and immediately have gas or burping or tend to have distress within a
> half hour after eating. Then you are low on HCL. This is about the
> only way you can tell without testing, unless someone else knows a
> better way. Then you can take 1 HCL tablet. If you get too much HCL
> you risk getting ulcers, upset stomachs towards the other way
> Q. Quite a few have asked questions having had cancer, having had
> different types of treatment and they apparently feel well. You have
> said something about this before but I think that some people still
> are worried about this.
> A. You still find that you are worried about cancer. We find that all
> the people who have had cancer and feel well now, have generally
> changed their pattern of living and sometimes you can have a cancer
> (and it’s very rare), that the shock of surgery turns the pancreas on
> full blast and it goes on for the rest of your life and you don’t have
> to worry about it. But by far, most people who have had cancerous
> tumors removed still have one or two in the body growing. Probably
> less than l0% who have had a cancer operation are completely free of
> cancer. If you feel good and have no problems, take 3 pancreas tablets
> after each meal and forget it. I’d go on and be happy.
> Q. One Person has a question concerning embryonal tumors, Is your
> treatment also effective with this type of tumor?
> A. If they are thinking about the same thing I am, normally this work
> good with this type of tumor.
> Q. There is one woman 88 years old who is rather anxious to do
> something. She wonders if she can undertake your particular test and
> treatment.
> A. Age level doesn’t make any difference to us. It doesn’t hurt to eat
> good no matter how old you are. And something like my grandfather he
> was told he would die if he didn’t give up biscuits. Well he said he
> would just as soon die. So he never did change. He lived to be quite
> old. We can’t see anybody without the request of their physician, so
> if the patient is willing to co-operate and take a tough program and
> diet, she might live to l00 but she may not want to.
> Q. One person has been told by his doctors that 3/4 of his liver has
> been ‘shot’. Do you have a reassuring word for him?
> A. Yes, that’s just how mine was. They told me my liver was gone and
> I’m still kicking. We find that a lot of times the tumor is on the
> liver and not in the liver, destroying the liver itself. It’s around
> the liver itself, and the liver tissue is not so badly damaged, as is
> this tumor growing adjacent too and mingled with the liver tissue. If
> it’s the liver itself that’s completely destroyed and eaten up, if 3/4
> of it is gone, it is going to be a problem. The only precaution you
> have in this case is if dissolving of the tumor is slow enough so that
> it doesn’t overload your body with toxins. Just so you keep it
> dissolving just a little bit. It’s the rate of dissolving that counts.
> Why most of the deaths that we had originally were involved with
> dissolving the tumor too fast. We dissolved them too fast until we
> learned better.
> Q. Quite a few questions emphasizing the importance of Vitamin E and
> Vitamin C and perhaps the other B Vitamins in combatting cancer. You
> have made very little mention of these. Would you comment please, doctor.
> A. Whenever your cell finally has nutrition brought to it and it gets
> all it wants and it starts dumping out all it’s poisons, Vitamin C
> helps get rid of the poison at the cell level. It breaks down the
> electromagnetic field force around each individual cell and massive
> doses of Vitamin C are called for, for a couple of month’s, it will
> help get rid of the toxins and start the flow of toxins out of the
> body. It’s OK to take Vitamin C in good size doses. Vitamin E—-a lot
> of the researchers hold to the Otto Warburg theory of oxidation. You
> have a lot of oxygen in your system. Oxygen utilization helps cancer.
> If you hold to that theory, Vitamin is a good oxydizing agent and
> helps in the utilization of oxygen. In that respect Vitamin E can
> help. Vitamin E can help in this respect and it won’t hurt. We don’t
> recommend a lot of Vitamin E because if you are really tough, like
> some Texans who can take it, the 14 grain cereal has a lot of Vitamin
> E in it and
> you don’t have to take any pills with it. If you can’t stand the 14
> grain cereal, then Vitamin E is real fine. Dr. Shute helps stroke
> victims with a build-up of sometimes 3,600 units a day. The average
> person he recommends about 1,200 units for the male, and about 800 for
> the female. Vitamin B? The B complex is good. Of course if you eat the
> l4grain cereal, you will get a lot of the B, and in the right balance.
> When you get the B complex out of balance, that is when you get into
> trouble. If you take too much B6, then you will deplete your body of
> B2 and then you’ll have the nervous rigors. So this is a problem. You
> need well-balanced B Vitamins. You get it in yeast and grains. You can
> take the B Vitamins, maybe B1 you can take separately, but other wise
> I would make sure I had a B complex instead of individual Vitamin B’s.
> Liver is a good thing for B complex. The 14 grain cereal is listed in
> our cancer book. You can call IACVF and they can give it to
> you because it takes a long time to write it all down.
> Q. There have been many questions concerning the elimination of the
> mucous on the villi. They don’t understand.
> A. Now, the mucous on the villi. I’m talking to you and not promoting
> any company doctor. A long time ago, Dr. Lee (who developed Standard
> Process Laboratories) never knew when he developed this, but we
> discovered this independently, he developed a tablet that had comfrey
> in it and also pepsin. Now the comfrey root is a sticky, gooey mass
> and it sticks. This pepsin, which is a digestive enzyme, against the
> intestinal cell long enough for the enzyme to digest the mucous off.
> This is an easy way to do it. Now what we recommend is two of these
> comfrey-pepsin tablets made by this company, after each meal for about
> 3 months.….after one year, for about 3 weeks to make sure you have
> your upper intestinal tract cleared off and the debris removed from
> it. I read, about this time last year that the Queen of England was
> somewhere and she had to take her glycerine and pepsin. Now in England
> they do this a little different. They take a teaspoon of glycerine and mix
> it with about 1 teaspoon of pepsin and make a paste in the bottom of a
> cup. Than they fill the cup half full of warm water and they drink
> this between meals. The glycerine is also sticky and it sticks the
> pepsin against the intestinal tract to clean it out. These are the two
> primary ways that I know about. There may be other ways. We’ve done
> some work with the enzyme from pineapples and papaya and sometimes
> this helps a little hit to clean the mucous. It causes some kind of
> enzymatic action in the intestinal tract.
> Q. Where can you get them? What company makes them?
> A. I think you can get some of these in health food stores, but most
> of these companies that make the enzymes from pineapple and from
> papaya, particularly pineapple are prescription items that your doctor
> will have. There are several of them. They use them in medicine to
> reduce swelling and surgeons use them. They are amylase. There are 2
> or 3 brand names but they are all prescription items. You can ask your
> doctor and he will look it up for you.
> Q. How about comfrey?
> A. Comfrey and pepsin is made by the Standard Process Laboratories.
> Q. Where is it?
> A. They have an office here in town. (Ed. note – They moved their
> office recently to Watertown, Mass.) You have to have a doctor to get it.
> Q. ‘Will vegetable enzymes do as good as pancreatin?
> A. There are papaya enzymes in some of the health food preparations.
> But you cannot take a vegetable enzyme and expect to cure yourself of
> cancer because it just won’t work. But it may help to clear the mucous
> and a lot of the health food company’s papaya may help clear the
> mucous, but we don’t have the data to be sure this will happen.
> Q. How about colonics?
> A. As I said, all the colonics in the world will not help your small
> intestine. There are 33 feet of small intestine there and a colonic
> only washes out the last few feet of the large intestine. Besides
> that, you have a valve. the ilcocaecal valve at the point of the
> appendix, where the water does not go back up the small intestine,
> even with a high colonic.
> Q. There is one person here who says enemas are not possible with her
> or him. Are they absolutely essential?
> A. If for some reason you can absolutely not have an enema, you should
> take a good laxative and keep the stool quite loose and keep the flow
> of poisons out of your system. Keep the poisons out of the colon-if
> you absolutely cannot take an enema, you can only do the next best thing.
> Q. What about Bentonite?
> A. The Bentonite is a good detoxification of the intestinal tract and
> helps pull poison out of the system and is a real good thing, but it
> doesn’t destroy the mucous. It does destroy poisons, etc. Mucous is
> actually caked on there somewhat like Elmer’s glue. When it’s on
> there, it just has to be digested off.
> Q. Now long does it take?
> A. Like I said you take comfrey and pepsin after each meal for 3
> months. Next year we take it, 2 after each meal for 3 weeks.
> Acidolphilus does not remove the mucous from the smell intestine. It
> keeps the acidolphilin balance and does a lot of other wonderful
> things. but it doesn’t do the mucous much good.
> Q. Cannot be heard.
> A. We’re getting a question on milk here. Now milk, as I said before,
> is made for 1,000 lb. babies that moo. Whenever we got our babies, (we
> have 4 adopted children), we didn’t give them cow’s milk. We got 4
> goats. They had milk until they were 3. We don’t let our children have
> milk. Milk is not good. You can use a little yoghurt. One of the
> reasons we got involved with milk is because pasteurized milk, the way
> I see it, being an orthodontist, is one of the causes of crooked
> teeth. If children drink it their jaws become depleted of calcium.
> Pasteurized milk is one of the biggest causes of orthodontic problems
> plus other things, but this is a significant factor.
> Q. How can you get the cereal down without a little milk?
> A. I didn’t use milk at all. Sometimes you can use pure cream diluted
> with water. I just eat the cereal raw. Just gobble it down. Some
> people can’t stand it. A lot of people put it in a blender and make it
> thin enough so they can blend a banana with it and they just drink it
> down.
> Q. What protein do you give your own Children?
> A. You can give them meat and other things unless they have a cancer
> condition. If you really want to do a good job of feeding your
> children, you get into the vegetarian system. But you really have to
> know what you are doing if you eliminate meat from your diet. Of
> course I’m not a member of either church, but there are two primary
> groups in the United States that do a beautiful job teaching people
> the proper system of vegetarianism and that is the Mormon and the
> Seventh Day Adventist Church. They have good teachings and a lot of
> good books in relation to diet. Don’t be a vegetarian unless you know
> what you are doing.
> Q. What about soy milk?
> A. Soy bean milk is OK in infants, I imagine. But don’t ever feed kids
> baby food. All it does is make Gerbers & Beechnut and all the others a
> lot of money. And also makes the Allergist a great deal of money. The
> Pediatrician will tell you to feed your child meat at the age of three
> weeks and that’s the most ridiculous thing that has ever been devised
> by human beings. The intestinal tract isn’t even adequately formed by
> that time and you give a child meat from a jar at the age of three
> weeks. I’ve seen mothers brag that their babies ate meat at three
> weeks. Then they begin to nurse their asthma and allergies. The
> intestinal tract is kind of big and sieve-like and these meat
> particles in great globs fall through the intestinal tract and get
> into the blood stream. You form all the antigens and allergies. This
> is a terrible thing to happen to a child. You give a child goat milk
> until they are at least six months old and then give them table food
> after that
> and don’t give them any meat until they are nine months old.
> Q. There are questions by people who are under other therapies such as
> cobalt or Laetrile. They want to know if there are any
> contra-indications to continue their present therapy and going on your
> program?
> A. None whatsoever. It doesn’t hurt to eat something —you might just
> as well eat the right things. No matter whether you are taking 5 F.U,
> Laetrile or cobalt or whether you are going to the hospital for
> surgery, if you eat well, your chance of recovery is so much greater.
> If you are going to have surgery for a malignant condition you should
> take your pancreatic enzymes for about 3 weeks in advance of surgery
> because this will help prevent the spread. A lot of people think if
> they are going to do surgery it is going to spread the malignancy. But
> if you have a good pancreatic supply of enzymes in your blood level at
> the time of surgery, you are not going to spread the malignancy and
> don’t forget the recommendations of your physician for surgery if you
> have a good pancreatic enzyme supply.
> Q. Here are two questions, apparently dissimilar, but relating to the
> same thing: This person has finished her cobalt treatments several
> months ago but her pain continues. This other person has just been
> operated on for cancer of the breast, radical mastectomy, she says I
> felt marvellous before the operation, why did I not feel sick. There
> are two questions— one felt wonderful and one felt miserable.
> A. Well the cancer can grow without feeling sick, particularly the
> fast growing type. Sometimes your pancreas fails all of a sudden. and
> your’ cancer grows rapidly. Sometimes your body isn’t depleted and you
> don’t get a run-down condition before the cancer. The easiest way
> doctors find cancer is in the voice box, the breast and in the
> bladder, at the real early stages. If they can find it early and get
> rid of it, why that’s good and you generally don’t feel bad. It’s the
> slow growing hidden ones that you can’t see, and that don’t interfere
> with your functions, that grow for several years. Now, the first part
> of the question?
> Q. This person was in much pain and feeling miserable and had cobalt
> and is still feeling miserable.
> A. Cobalt, a lot of times after treatment in slow growing
> Q. What I was intending was the contrast between these two patients.
> A. Well, in a cobalt situation or any other situation, one feels bad
> for a long time at first. If it is generally a slow growing thing were
> they both breast cancer?
> Q. It doesn’t say.
> A. If you feel bad for a long time and in a lot of pain..….Pain you
> must remember and if you don’t take note: the most painful thing that
> happens to a human being is stretching syndrome. The bladder is the
> only tissue made that was designed to stretch. Any other tissue is
> painful. The most painful thing that happens to a human being is
> stretching. Whenever you have a lot of toxins in your body, whether it
> is from cobalt, or anything that causes toxins to develop in your
> body, they are stored in the lymph system. The lymph system stretches
> and stretches and keeps filling and filling with this debris and junk.
> The more it stretches, the more pain you have. This is normally what
> happens. In this case it maybe where the nerve itself is being pinched
> from some other cause. The most frequent cause of pain in cancer is
> stretching of the lymph system. When the lymph system is quite
> stretched and gorged with debris material, whether it is growing cancer or
> dissolved cancer, it is quite painful. When you detoxify the body, it
> is the best relief of pain. If it’s from a toxic condition or if it’s
> from some other cause —they will have to find the basic cause
> —whether it’s from a nerve injury or something like that or a nerve
> impingement of some kind.
> Q. May I ask a question of the pancreatic enzyme that is used to
> dissolve the cancer? Has there ever been any radioactive labelling of
> it to see if it dissolves the cancer?
> Q. May I ask a related question? You have published a book, have you
> published any other literature or articles?
> A. We have published articles about other things but not in relation
> to health. We are ready to do some when we get a publisher.
> There are other methods of determing whether there is radioactive
> utilization of pancreatic enzymes. Anyone who wants to do that can. We
> haven’t actually done radioactive studies ourself. But that’s not the
> only requirement or criteria to see whether it works or not.
> Q. Where have you come up with the relationship?
> A. There are many things that have been written since 1900 about this
> and you can get the information through the International Association
> of Cancer Victims and Friends.
> Q. Would you comment about the foods. The contrast between the organic
> foods and foods that are obtained from the supermarket. Do those from
> the supermarket impede recovery terribly?
> A. It is almost impossible to have all organic food. In many parts of
> the country there is not enough available. You are going to have to
> use supermarket foods. It is better to use organic foods. Even organic
> foods are grown next door to the people who spray and pollution from
> the air also drop on organic food. We tested food and found that even
> organic foods are highly contaminated and so finally we get as much
> organically grown food as we can. At our house we always process our
> food properly, whether it’s supermarket or organically grown, by
> cleaning it as best as we can. There are a lot of cleaning devices.
> The air force found that if they put a teaspoon of clorox in a sink
> full of water and soak all their vegetables in that and in addition to
> that, we use BasicH or some of the detergent cleaners which come from
> the health food store, specifically to clean vegetables. Some people
> even use a weak solution of hydrochloric acid. You can consult with your
> local health food store. They have a lot of products with which you
> can clean the food.
> Q Does soaking foods destroy many of the vitamins and minerals?
> A. A lot of people say whenever you clean a food, you lose a lot of
> minerals but you don’t, as long as the cell walls are intact.
> Q. Gerson said something about the ground – that it was different in
> organically grown food.
> A. It is always better to have organically grown food – there is no
> question about that. But if you can’t, you just can’t.
> Q. There is a question concerning almonds. Whenever using almond or
> apricot kernels, do they need to be blanched and the skins taken off?
> A. We never found it necessary to. There are all kinds of fads and
> fanaticisms. A lot of people feel that the skins of almonds have too
> much tannic acid. We don’t hold to this. We give almonds for the
> protein content and so if you want to blanch them its OK. I myself use
> them with the skins on.
> Q. What progress in dietary therapy did you observe at the ACS
> conference this week?
> A. I don’t associate with those boys too much. My thing is getting well.
> Q. What about eggs?
> A. I think eggs are a good food. I don’t eat them often. The research
> is that they are good food. The best way to use eggs is to soft boil
> them in the shell. Dr. Cheraskin, a well known authority, thinks it’s
> baloney about the cholesterol. He used 700 dentists and had them eat 2
> eggs a day and their cholesterol count decreased.
> Q. Question is about cellular therapy.
> A. Cellular therapy is the implanting of embryo cells in the body.
> When the pancreas fails from blood clots, etc, you need to re-grow the
> pancreas and this would help in a great number of cases. Cellular
> therapy seems to work. We tested people we didn’t know had cellular
> therapy and it works. We did a double blind test on cellular therapy
> and it works well. You don’t have one form of treatment – and just
> before one is dying of cancer you have to do more than one thing. You
> have to do several things at once.
> Q. Can polyps in the rectum be treated nutritionally if they are
> malignant or otherwise or is surgery ok?
> A. That depends on your doctor. Surgery is not a bad thing and
> sometimes it is helpful. I would make sure to change the diet and be
> in good sound health and then if you have surgery it is that much
> better. Sometimes surgery is indicated.
> Q. Should white sugar be taken off the market?
> A. Yes, it ought to be against the law – and white bread also.
> Q. Can you explain more about low-blood sugar?
> A. Low blood sugar is a malfunction and if you can correct these
> things you can pretty well wipe out low blood sugar:
> 1. adrenal failure
> 2. pancreatic failure
> liver failure
> 4 mineral balance
> 5. circulation
> Whenever you have all of these things working well, you are not going
> to have low blood sugar.
> Q. What about mixing vegetables and fruits?
> A. There are a lot of fads about mixing vegetables and fruits in the
> same meal. There is a controversy about this. The researchers who are
> working on it say if you take enough enzymes, then you can. I don’t
> recommend myself that you eat raw fruit and fresh vegetables at the
> same meal. Most of the researchers don’t hold to that. They feel it is
> alright to mix it up any way you want to as long as you take enough
> enzymes to digest it properly.
> Q. Do you consider 1200 units of vitamin D a small dosage?
> A. Yes.
> Q How do you explain the coffee enema stimulating the liver?
> A. The coffee is absorbed in the large intestine. The large intestine
> absorbs liquid. That is its function. It goes directly to the portal
> vein, to the liver immediately.
> Q. If someone has a cyst in the breast and wants to nurse the baby,
> could this have an effect on the growth of the cancer?
> A. Of course you would have to ask your doctor about this but the way
> I feel about it is I don’t think you can transmit cancer in this way.
> Q. I don’t mean transmitting it. I mean can the patient get worse?
> A. If you take your nutritional supplements, your enzymes, I don’t
> think it will make any difference.
> Q. Do you have any information on feeding citrus pulp to cattle be
> cause citrus pulp has vitamin C and pectin and pectin kills
> undesirable intestinal bacteria that causes diarrhea in cattle? And
> about giving cattle linseed oil and linseed meal?
> A. Well, linseed oil is of course flax, and the rind of grapefruit is
> good. Citrus pulp and the effect it has on anybody is a good question
> because we are all interested in stroke. We find that the pulp of
> grapefruit and the bottom and peel, the bioflavanoids, and the rutin,
> which is what is involved here, and what they are getting at, we find
> that this is good for the blood vessels and if you have blood vessels
> that are fragile and tend to a stroke, or you have varicose veins, you
> need the bioflavanoids and rutin. This strengthens the blood vessels
> themselves to make them more elastic and they don’t fracture as
> easily. Therefore, you don’t have so many strokes or varicose veins.
> This is the advantage we find clinically.
> Q. You recommend buttermilk and yoghurt. Should it be raw?
> A. What we are interested in in buttermilk and yoghurt is keeping the
> intestinal bacteria count at a high level. You can take this in a
> tablet form from the drug store or from the health food store or you
> can take it in culture form from the health food store. It is better
> to use it in culture form than to use buttermilk, but buttermilk is
> more readily available than yoghurt because there aren’t health food
> stores in every part of the country.
> Q. How much buttermilk?
> A. You shouldn’t drink over I glass of buttermilk a day.
> Q. Is it possible to care for an enlarged thyroid nutritionally?
> A. An enlarged thyroid is generally due to a bad mineral balance and
> it is called hyperplasia. The cells are screaming for some-thing to
> eat and they are just enlarging and enlarging because they are trying
> to get something to eat. If you give them a good nutritional program
> generally, they will probably normalize. Chances are greater that they
> will than that they won’t.
> Q. If a parson gets up in the morning and breaks out in perspiration
> and has a terrible sensation, like a blood sensation, could this be
> toxins?
> A. We don’t diagnose or treat anybody. Normally your autonomic nervous
> system is out of balance and you have sweats, etc. This is sometimes
> caused by a great number of worms in the body or the nervous system is
> out of balance. Or you could be suffering from hypoglycemia or
> hyperinsulinism. Those things are characteristic and you need to have
> your doctor help you find the reasons for those.
> Q. If you are taking pancreatin and dissolving toxins and not taking
> enemas, will the poisons eventually come out of your system or will
> they stay there forever?
> A. They will eventually get out of the system. It is not wise to dump
> all the poison into your system without helping your body take care of
> it, but whenever we say coffee enema, we insult moat people. If you
> can’t take or don’t want to take it. you can just taugh it out.
> Q. Would your therapy help leukemia?
> A. This therapy works quite wall – it has in the past. In 3 or 4 weeks
> in a leukemic patient. It should show a marked change where you are
> practically over it. If you do it right. If it doesn’t work that
> rapidly, you know that you have a bad amount of malignancy somewhere
> else in the body too. Leukemia is no different than other forms of
> cancer. Just in a different place. Hodgkins disease is the same thing.
> Hodgkins is the second easiest to cure. Leukemia is the easiest. Bone,
> brain and skin are the hardest. Not really hard–slower. It depends
> upon the circulation at the site of the tumor. It doesn’t matter
> whether it is one or another kind of cancer. It depends upon the
> amount of circulation available to get the material to the site of the
> tumor in significant amounts.
> Q. Would you say something more about how to clean the vegetables? How
> do you use Clorox?
> A. At our house we take Basic H, put 2 or 3 drops of that and a
> teaspoon of Clorox in the water. We let the vegetables soak for 30
> minutes. We drain this off, fill the sink full of clear water and let
> vegetables soak for 30 minutes. Then they can be eaten.
> Q. Do you get all the DDT out?
> A. No, I doubt if you get it all out. That is the best you can do in
> our society.
> Q. You mentioned that some patients died because the tumors were
> dissolving too rapidly; then you changed the system. What change did
> you make and how did you control the rate of detoxification?
> A. You take your program until you feel sick, complete loss of
> appetite, then we tell the patient to give up the pancreatic enzymes
> completely for 5 days and then start again. Maybe they can go ten days
> and then stop again. You can judge the toxic condition of your body by
> the way you feel. And this is the way you are going to have to
> regulate it. You should do it until you feel bad and then just stop
> it. Wait awhile and start in again.
> Q. Do eggs give you cancer?
> A. No.
> Q. What is the best way to get calciuni
> A. Calcium is good in the body. Milk depletes the body of calcium. You
> get calcium from carrot juice and vegetables. That is the best way.
> Q. Would you consider something unorthodox, like Laetrile?
> A. If you have enough money and want to take Laetrile it’s alright.
> There’s nothing wrong with it. It is bad-mouthed by the medical
> profession because they do not have financial control over it.
> Q. A lady who is not allowed to eat raw food because she has a bad
> condition in the colon. What can she do.
> A. The cooked vegetable you are talking about we mentioned twice now.
> You have to take two things if you can not eat raw vegetables: 1) You
> take vegetables in the form of juice. 2) You take a large amount of
> enzymes.
> Q. What kind of salt should one use?
> A. Sea salt.
> Q. What can be done for pyorrhoea?
> A. Pyorrhoea is the first stage of arthritis. First you have
> pyorrhoea, then osteoporosis and then you get arthritis. Mineral
> balance is off and the calcium-phosphorous balance is off. First of
> all the mineral balance should be built up and get the
> calcium-phosphorous balance corrected. What can be done basically is
> take blackstrap molasses and then take Hydrochloric acid at the
> beginning of each meal and eat a lot of raw food.

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medical marijuana

Posted by Jonathan Chamberlain on February 18, 2009 news
“John from Israel” resurrected this interesting interview:

– A Medicinal Marvel
Cannabis, or marijuana, has proven medical benefits and few, if any,
toxic side-effects. Why, then, has it been a prohibited medicine for
over fifty years?
Dr Lester Grinspoon interviewed by Jana Ray © 1996 by Jana Ray For
further information, contact: c/- B.C. Anti-Prohibition League PO
Box 8179 Victoria, British Columbia, V8W 3R8 Canada

Medicinal cannabis, also known as medical marijuana, is beginning to
receive attention worldwide. Unfortunately, scare tactics and
misinformation surrounding the international ‘war on drugs’ continue
to dominate in the political and medical arenas, leaving many
unwilling or unable to think for themselves. Despite this, more
people are discovering the ability of marijuana, or cannabis, to
relieve symptoms surrounding many medical conditions.
One of the pioneers of medicinal cannabis research is Dr Lester
Grinspoon, a professor at Harvard Medical School. In the last 30
years Dr Grinspoon has researched and written many articles along
with two books on the cannabis controversy. Marihuana
Reconsideredand Marihuana, The Forbidden Medicine introduced many to
the positive uses and benefits of one of the oldest cultivated
plants in the world.

In this interview with Dr Grinspoon, many topics are discussed
concerning the role of medicinal cannabis use in today’s society.

J. Ray: What got you interested in marijuana/cannabis?

Dr Grinspoon: In 1967, I had some unexpected time so I thought I
would look into marijuana to see what all the fuss was about. I was
convinced at the time that marijuana was a terribly dangerous drug.
I didn’t understand why young people were ignoring the government’s
warnings about its danger in using it. So, I spent the next three
years doing research and looking into it. I learned I had been
brainwashed just like so many other citizens in the United States.

While marijuana is not harmless, it is so much less harmful than
alcohol or tobacco that the only sensible way to deal with it is to
make it legally available in a controlled system. We can see this
with alcohol which is legally available to people over the age of 21
in the United States. I put all this together in a book called
Marihuana Reconsidered. It was published in 1971 by Harvard
University Press and was quite controversial at the time. It has
just been republished as a classic with a new introduction, 25 years

JR: In your research you found marijuana/cannabis to be less harmful
than tobacco or alcohol?

Dr G: I think cannabis is not harmless. There is no such thing as a
harmless drug. Cannabis is, by any criterion, less harmful than
either alcohol or tobacco. For example, tobacco costs the US about
425,000 lives every year; alcohol, perhaps 100,000 to 150,000 lives,
not to speak of all the other problems caused by alcohol use. With
cannabis there has not been a single case of a documented death due
to its use. Now, of course, death is not the only toxicity. It is
the most profound one and certainly a permanent one. If you look at
it from the point of view of other toxicities, again it comes out
much better than either alcohol or tobacco. In fact, the subject of
our latest book, Marihuana, The Forbidden Medicine, looks at
cannabis from the point of view of a medicine. When cannabis regains
the place it once had in the US Pharmacopoeia it will be among the
least toxic substances in that whole compendium.

JR: It was in the US Pharmacopoeia in the early 1900s?

Dr G: That is correct. Cannabis was a very much used drug up until
1941 when it was dropped from the US Pharmacopoeia. This was after
the passage of the first of the draconian US anti-marijuana laws in
1937, the Marihuana Tax Act. This Act made it so difficult for
physicians to prescribe cannabis that they just stopped using it.

JR: Cannabinoid receptors were recently discovered in the human
brain. Are these cannabinoid receptors related to cannabis and its
medical uses?

Dr G: Very definitely. Some years ago it was discovered by Dr
Solomon Snyder that there are endogenous opioids; that is to say,
substances like opium that we produce in our bodies. It followed
from that, that there would be opioid receptors in our brains. It
wasn’t long afterwards that a woman named Candace Pert discovered
this. In other words, if you consider a receptor as a kind of
keyhole and the ligand or the neurotransmitter as the key that opens
it, the key has to fit into that receptor to open it.

With cannabis it came about the other way: the receptor sites for
cannabis were discovered first. I believe this was in 1990. From
this it was implied that there had to be an endogenous cannabinoid,
a ligand that would turn this receptor site on. Indeed, a couple of
years later, a man named W. A. Devane and his group discovered this
ligand and they gave it the name “anandamide” , after the Sanskrit
word ananda, which means “bliss”. Now there are many studies of
these receptors and anandamide. It is clear that these receptors are
not just located in the brain but in various other organs in the
body as well.

I think we are going to see in the future that these receptors play
a very important part in the medicinal utility of cannabis. Right
now the clinical evidence is empirical and anecdotal but, in my
view, powerful enough to be translated into a policy which would
allow people to use cannabis legally for medicinal purposes.

JR: Do these recent discoveries contradict past research that warned
of brain damage from cannabis use?

Dr G: In my view, that kind of thing is in the realm of myth and
misinformation about cannabis. Think about it for a minute. If the
brain produces its own cannabinoid- like substances, it doesn’t make
much sense that it would produce a substance which is going to
damage the brain. Indeed, long before it was discovered that there
are endogenous cannabinoids, the empirical evidence did not
demonstrate that cannabis damaged the brain.

There are a few studies which were methodically unsound that the US
Government and, specifically, NIDA, the National Institute of Drug
Abuse, and the DEA, the Drug Enforcement Administration, focus on.

JR: Can you tell me something about the US Drug Enforcement
Administration, the DEA?

Dr G: The predecessor agency of the DEA, the Federal Bureau of
Narcotics, was organised in 1930 by a man named Anslinger. Anslinger
undertook what he called a “great educational campaign”, which
actually turned out to be a great disinformational campaign. This is
symbolised by one of the flagships of that campaign: the movie,
Reefer Madness. If you see the movie Reefer Madness today, even a
person who is not very sophisticated about marijuana will laugh at
the grossness of the exaggerations dramatised in that movie.

JR: Do you think pharmaceutical drug companies have anything to do
with the government’s prohibitive stand against medicinal cannabis

Dr G: Absolutely. The Partnership for a Drug Free America has a
budget of about a million dollars a day. A lot of that money comes
from drug companies and distilleries. You see, these companies and
distilleries have something to lose- the distilleries for obvious
reasons. The drug companies are not interested in marijuana as a
medicine because the plant cannot be patented. If you can’t patent
it, you can’t make money on it. Their only interest is a negative
one. It will eventually displace some of their pharmaceutical

Imagine a patient who requires cancer chemotherapy. Now he can take
the best of the anti-nausea drugs, which would be ondansetron. He
would pay about US$35 or $40 per 8-milligram pill and would then
take three or four of them for a treatment. Normally, he would take
it orally, but people with that kind of nausea often can’t, so he
would take it intravenously. The cost of one treatment for that
begins at US$600 because he will need a hospital bed, etc. Or he can
smoke perhaps half of a marijuana cigarette and receive relief from
the nausea.

Currently, marijuana on the streets is very expensive. One can pay
from US$200 to $600 an ounce. This is what I call the prohibition
tariff. When marijuana is available as a medicine, the cost would be
significantly less than other medications; it would cost about US$20
to $30 an ounce. You can’t tax it in the US because it is a
medicine. So that would translate out to maybe about 30 cents for a
marijuana cigarette.

So our chemotherapy patient could get, many people believe, better
relief from the marijuana cigarette for 30 cents. This, in
comparison to the ondansetron which would cost at the very least
US$160 a day and, if he had to take it intravenously, more than
US$600 per treatment.

Well, if you multiply that by all of the symptoms and syndromes we
discuss in the book, Marihuana, The Forbidden Medicine, then you can
see that the drug companies will have something to lose here.

JR: Do you see this as a big obstacle in changing drug policy here
in North America?

Dr G: Well, it is certainly playing a part. It is indirectly playing
a part in the Partnership for a Drug Free America ads. To say they
are inaccurate is an understatement.

JR: Are we also talking about DARE, the Drug Abuse Resistance
Education program we see in many schools at this time?

Dr G: Oh yes, that is a terrible program. Again, it is mis-educating
children about drugs. It has now been established in a major study
that it doesn’t do a bit of good. We’re all worried about youngsters
doing drugs, but now DARE has been demonstrated not to do any good.

JR: In your book, Marihuana, The Forbidden Medicine, there are many
references to the medicinal uses of cannabis. What are some of the
medical problems you have seen medicinal cannabis help?

Dr G: The most common cancer treatment in the last couple of decades
is with the cancer chemotherapeutic substances. A big problem with
some of these is the severe nausea and vomiting. It is the kind of
nausea that anybody who has not experienced it can only imagine. It
is very important that this nausea be defeated so patients can be
reasonably comfortable with this treatment. As I have mentioned,
there are conventional drugs available; it is just that cannabis is
often the best.

Then there is glaucoma which is a disorder of increased intraocular
pressure in the eyes. If that pressure is not brought down, glaucoma
can eventually lead to blindness. There are conventional medicines
that work pretty well; but, for some people, cannabis works better
and with fewer side-effects.

Epilepsy is a disorder which has been treated by cannabis for
centuries. About 25 per cent of people in the US who have various
forms of epilepsy don’t get good relief from the conventional
medicines. Many of them do get relief from one of the oldest anti-
epileptic medicines, cannabis.

Multiple sclerosis affects more than two million people in the US,
and one of its distressing symptoms is muscle spasm. It is very
painful. Anybody who has had a cramp while swimming will know what
muscle spasm pain is all about. Cannabis is very effective for the
muscle spasms of not only multiple sclerosis but also of paraplegia
and quadriplegia.

Furthermore, cannabis helps people with MS who may have trouble
controlling their bladders. Cannabis is very helpful in reducing
this kind of loss of control. Not long ago I was in London doing a
TV debate on the topic of medicinal cannabis use. There was a woman
in the audience who said she had come down from Leeds, two-and-a-
half hours on the train, to be in the television audience. She has
MS. The part that was so distressing for her was the social
embarrassment of losing control over her bladder. Well, she said
cannabis has restored her bladder control and she could now make the
two-and-a-half- hour trip from Leeds with no trouble.

Cannabis has been used for centuries in the treatment of various
kinds of chronic pain. It was used on the battlefields of the Civil
War as an analgesic medicine until morphine displaced it. Morphine
was much quicker for the pain and a much more powerful pain-reliever
than cannabis. Cannabis cannot defeat very powerful pain. The price
of using morphine was that many people suffered from what was then
called “soldier’s disease”, which was addiction to morphine.

Cannabis is very useful in the treatment of migraine headaches. Sir
William Osler, in his last textbook on medicine, describes cannabis
as the best single medicine for the treatment of the pain of

The list is longer than that but I don’t think you want me to go on
and on about this. One of the amazing things about cannabis is its
versatility. It has many uses. It is also remarkably non-toxic and
it will be quite inexpensive when it is not a prohibited substance.
In my opinion, cannabis will be seen as a wonder drug of the 1990s,
much as penicillin was in the 1940s.

JR: In your first book on cannabis, Marihuana Reconsidered, you
mentioned that the international drug-control treaties, specifically
the United Nations Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, were not a
serious obstacle to the legalization of cannabis. Do you still go
along with this?

Dr G: There is no question about it. There is no serious obstacle.
Treaties can be changed and I think the push to do that will come
from Europe. The interest in this is growing much more rapidly in
Europe than in the US. In fact, there is so much new information
regarding medicinal cannabis use that Yale University Press has
asked us for a second edition of Marihuana, The Forbidden Medicine.
This book has been translated into 10 languages, including Japanese.

Late in 1995 we received a letter from our German publisher
congratulating us on our seventh printing. They said our book has
begun a “robust debate on the medicinal use of marijuana in
Germany”. So, the Europeans are way ahead of us, and I think the
pressure will probably come from them to make the necessary legal
changes so cannabis can be used as a medicine without interference.
The present situation is just awful. These poor people who use it as
a medicine already have some degree of anxiety regarding their
disease. Another layer of anxiety is imposed on them by their
government; namely, they might get arrested or have their homes
confiscated because they use cannabis as a medicine.

JR: Do you think these international treaties are what keep the ‘war
on drugs’ alive?

Dr G: I think the Single Convention is not a big obstacle, frankly.
I think lots of people use that as an excuse, that we can’t do
anything because of the Single Convention. I’m not an expert on it,
but the international lawyers I’ve talked to say this is not the
problem. I think the war on drugs is a much bigger thing than our
discussion of medicinal cannabis use. The ‘war on drugs’ is a much
more complicated problem. If we stick to the narrow agenda of
medicinal cannabis use, I think putting pressure on our government
representatives and other people in powerful positions is the way.

People are learning about cannabis as a medicine. Anybody who knows
a person with AIDS who is dealing with the wasting syndrome probably
knows someone who has discovered that cannabis not only retards his
weight-loss but maybe helps him to regain weight. People who know
patients with multiple sclerosis, migraine, glaucoma who are using
cannabis, begin to see that it is a very useful medicine and they
begin to wonder what all the fuss is about. So I think people are
getting educated.

The other thing that is happening that I think is very hopeful is
that doctors are getting educated. You see, doctors usually get
their drug education from drug companies or from pharmaceutical
company sales people who go around to doctors’ offices, as well as
from journal articles, advertisements and promotional campaigns from
these drug companies. There are no drug companies interested in
cannabis, so doctors don’t learn much about it. In my view, doctors
have not only been mis-educated like so many other people, but they
have also been agents of that mis-education. What is happening now
is doctors are learning from patients. This is a new way for doctors
to learn about a new medicine. They learn lots of things from their
patients, but generally not about new medicines.

An example of this would be an AIDS patient who started using
cannabis for his wasting syndrome. Imagine him going into his
doctor’s office and getting on the scales. The doctor knows he’s
been losing weight all along and nothing that the doctor has given
him has helped. Suddenly, the doctor sees his patient has gained
weight since the last visit and he asks, “What’s going on?” The
patient says, “It is the cannabis I’ve been smoking: it has helped
me put on some weight.” This makes a powerful impression on a doctor
who has been struggling to help his patient gain weight. Once this
happens to a doctor, his attitude begins to change.

JR: How can the average person work for changes in the drug laws?

Dr G: Well, right now in the US, Congressman Barney Frank of
Massachusetts has introduced a bill to do just this; to make it
possible for people to use cannabis as a medicine. He needs co-
sponsorship and support for this bill. People who are interested in
this can contact Barney Frank or even their own representatives and
ask them to support HR 2618, the Bill for medical cannabis use for
those in medical need.

JR: Is this a similar bill to what Newt Gingrich and others had
introduced into Congress in the early 1980s?

Dr G: It’s the same bill. It is the McKinney bill. I had suggested
to Congressman Frank to expand the number of symptoms and syndromes
for which cannabis can be used. We know more about it than we did in
1982, but it is the same bill. Gingrich supported it then, but not

JR: In February 1994 you and James Bakalar wrote, “The War on Drugs:
A Peace Proposal”, published in The New England Journal of Medicine.
In it you talk about harm-reduction strategies in the Netherlands
and other countries. What do you think is holding back these
governments in North America from making the changes necessary for a
truce in the drug war, specifically in regards to medicinal cannabis

Dr G: Unfortunately, it is attitudes and fears that are unwarranted.
Take one harm-reduction approach; namely, clean needles. Now, we’ve
been saying for years that clean needles will reduce the spread of
AIDS among drug users. The IV drug users are the group spreading it
the most. There are people who are afraid of needle-exchange
programs because they think it will cause an increase in the use of
intravenous drugs. I would say this has been going on now for four
or five years. Now the data is overwhelming. It clearly demonstrates
that exchanging needles does cut down the spread of AIDS and it does
not cause an increase in the use of these drugs. It is so convincing
that some local municipalities have gone ahead with needle
exchanges, but the Federal government and President Clinton are all
dead set against it. We could have saved a lot of people from AIDS
by instituting this policy of clean needles early on. Even now we
are dragging our feet because of this misapprehension about giving
needles out. Ignorance and fear are not always corrected by data.
The data on needle exchange is compelling whether it’s from
Australia, New Haven or wherever. There is no question. You would
think when you have this kind of data it would be translated into
social policy, considering the cost of AIDS in human suffering. But
we’re having an awful tough time persuading the authorities that we
should go full steam ahead with needle exchange.

There is an attitude here in the US that the only way to treat
anyone using a drug not approved of is to treat them as a criminal.
Many of these people even go to jail. The costs of criminalizing
these people have been extreme. Since I started my work on marijuana
in 1967, more than 10 million Americans have been arrested on
marijuana charges in the US. In 1994, the year for which we have the
latest FBI data on this, 483,000 Americans were arrested on
marijuana charges. That is just extraordinary when you consider that
cannabis imposes less harm on the individual and on society than
either alcohol or tobacco.

JR: What kind of feedback did you receive from your June 1995
article, “Marihuana as Medicine”, in JAMA?

Dr G: Well, that article caused a lot of fuss. It was published in
the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA). This
organization has been steadfast in its opposition to marijuana for
50 years-since an editorial published in 1945. Although the AMA
doesn’t say so officially, I think publishing our article signals a
growing change in physicians’ attitudes towards medicinal cannabis.
There were physicians who wrote me nasty letters. More impressive
were the many physicians who shared their stories about how they
learned about cannabis from seeing how it helped a particular
patient. Several of them said we ought to have an organization, a
physicians’ organization, for the medical use of marijuana. The
article created a stir not just in this country. I think JAMA is
published in 33 languages. It was no small wonder that there was a
lot of mail from other parts of the world as well.

JR: Was the feedback mostly positive?

Dr G: Absolutely. By far, most of it was positive. There were some
nasty letters, but I have received those from the time I first
published Marihuana Reconsidered. The first letter I received was a
very nasty letter. As the years go on, though, the mail gets much
more positive.

JR: What do you see for the future of medicinal cannabis use?

Dr G: It strikes me that there are a lot of parallels with the
discovery of penicillin. Penicillin was discovered by a man named
Alexander Fleming in 1928. He had gone off for summer vacation and
left a Petri dish out in his laboratory. When he came back, the
Petri dish was just covered with Staphylococcus, except for an area
surrounding what looked like a little island of mould. He looked
into it and found that the mould was giving off a substance which he
called “penicillin” . It was killing the Staphylococcus. Yet his
discovery was ignored until 1941. For over a decade his publication
was ignored, until the pressure of World War II highlighted the need
for antibacterial substances other than sulphonamides. Then a couple
of investigators did a study with just six patients and demonstrated
it was a good antibiotic.

Penicillin became very inexpensive to produce. It was clear that
penicillin was not toxic and it was very versatile as a drug. It was
used in the treatment of many different kinds of infectious
diseases. It became the wonder drug of the 1940s.

When cannabis can be produced as a medicine it will be very
inexpensive. I have already listed some of the reasons why it can be
said to be versatile, and, the government position notwithstanding,
it is remarkably non-toxic. It has exactly the same three
characteristics that made penicillin a wonder drug. These are some
of the reasons I believe that, in the late 1990s, cannabis is going
to be recognized as a wonder drug.

Grinspoon, Lester, M.D., Marihuana Reconsidered, Quick American
Archives (a division of Quick Trading Company, PO Box 429477, San
Francisco, CA 94142, USA), 1994 (ISBN 0-932551-13- 0), first
published by Harvard University Press, 1971.
Grinspoon, Lester, M.D. and James B. Bakalar, Marihuana, The
Forbidden Medicine, Yale University Press, New Haven and London,
1993 (ISBN 0-300-05435- 1 [cloth], ISBN 0-300-05994- 9 [paperback].
Grinspoon, Lester, M.D. and James B. Bakalar, “The War On Drugs: A
Peace Proposal”, New England Journal of Medicine, vol. 330, no. 5, 3
February 1994.
Grinspoon, Lester, M.D. and James B. Bakalar, “Marihuana as
Medicine: A Plea for Reconsideration” , Journal of the American
Medical Association (JAMA), vol. 273, no. 23.

For more information on the DARE school programs, here is a list of
articles and world wide web addresses:
Harmon, Michele Alicia, “Reducing the Risk of Drug Involvement Among
Early Adolescents: An Evaluation of Drug Abuse Resistance Education
(DARE)”, Institute of Criminal Justice and Criminology, University
of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742, USA, April 1993.
Web address: http://turnpike. net/~jnr/ dareeval. htm

“Studies Find Drug Program Not Effective”, USA Today, 11 October
1993. See web site: http://turnpike. net/~jnr/ dareart.htm.

“A Different Look at DARE”, Drug Reform Coordination Network Topics,
in-depth series. Web site address: http://drcnet. org/DARE.

About the Interviewee:
Dr Lester Grinspoon is an Associate Professor of Psychiatry at the
Harvard Medical School. He has published over 140 papers and 12
books. His major area of interest has been ‘illicit’ drugs. His
first book, Marihuana Reconsidered, was published in 1971 by Harvard
University Press and republished in 1994 as a classic. He has
written books on amphetamines, cocaine and psychedelic drugs. In
1990 he won the Alfred R. Lindesmith Award of the Drug Policy
Foundation for “Achievement in the field of drug scholarship” .
Marihuana, The Forbidden Medicine, Dr Grinspoon’s latest book,
written with James Bakalar, has been translated into 10 languages. A
second edition is now in press. [Copies of Marihuana, The Forbidden
Medicine, can be ordered from the Publicity Department, Yale
University Press, New Haven, Connecticut, USA, phone +1 (203) 432

About the Interviewer:
Jana Ray is a freelance writer and community radio personality who
works to educate the public about humane alternatives to the global
war on drugs. Harm-reduction strategies, legal medicinal cannabis
use, drug law reform and the preservation of everyone’s human rights
are fundamental principles guiding her work. Since 1992, Jana has
been an active member of the British Columbia Anti-Prohibition
League which represents various west Canadian groups. BCAPL
advocates public/government recognition of the individual’s natural,
human and legal right to determine personally his/her own religion,
lifestyle and consumption.

Extracted from Nexus Magazine, Volume 3, #5 (August-September ’96).
PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia. editor@nexusmagazin
Telephone: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381 From our web
page at: http://www.nexusmag

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magnesium bicarbonate

Posted by Jonathan Chamberlain on February 18, 2009

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ransley aka “daddybob” reports:

I grind some magnesium chloride flakes in a coffee grinder, perhaps a couple
of weeks worth. Keep it airtight for storage.

I’ve been taking 1/2 tsp magnesium chloride with water.

I wait 3 minutes by timer.

I take 1/2 tsp baking soda.

I do this at night on an empty stomach then I sit down for about the next
half hour or go to bed.

I’ve been doing it for a week. I had no idea what to expect, I was just
looking for an easier way to take magnesium bicarbonate than making it by
the carbonated water / MoM method.

The results have been very surprising. At first I began to feel sensations
in my heart, chest and carotid arteries. A couple of times I could tell
something was happening in my head too. I quickly knew that what I felt in
my heart and arteries was bound to be an attack on plaque and calcification.
There is no feeling in the brain but it gets calcified too. I don’t know how
to describe that feeling, it was not unpleasant, it was just there. The
sensation in my heart and arteries stopped just short of being pain.

In just a few days the sensation no longer happened in my head; the
sensation in my heart and arteries became limited to my right carotid and
left upper quadrant of my heart.

After several days it appears to have started making my left leg hurt again,
which is the first thing that the water method did to me. If the end result
is to be even better than that first result, then I am really looking
forward to it.

A while ago Trem Williams of Silvergen revealed that he had taken too much
Serrapeptase too fast, in an effort to clean out arterial plaque, and had a
stroke. He now urges caution in doing anything too fast in that regard.

I have taken several enzymes but never felt anything from them other than
occasional mild gastric distress. I have this picture in my mind that
enzymes may eat at plaque but leave bits and pieces dangling that can break
off and cause thrombosis, embolism and stroke. I have this picture in my
head of magnesium bicarbonate doing something similar but being a more
effective chemical reaction and possibly not leaving dangling bits and
pieces of plaque. I sure hope I’m right about that.

My wife is presently taking half the dose I’m taking and feels nothing from
it. I will not increase my dose until after all present sensations have

I have taken magnesium chloride orally many times before this and never felt
anything like this until I added the baking soda three minutes later.

I’m ready to take DMSO if I think I’m having a blockage.

I’ll report more as I learn more.

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“This is the book everyone with cancer needs.”

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Magnesium chloride oil

Posted by Jonathan Chamberlain on February 18, 2009

The Big Book: Cancer: The Complete Recovery Guide

The Small Book: Cancer Recovery Guide: 15 Alternative and Complementary Strategies for Restoring Health  –  For more information go to

“This book tells me everything. Why didn’t my doctor tell me this?”- Rev. Bill Newbern


According to Renee Magnesium chloride oil is “simply the left over waste product from making sea salt via the sun evaporation method.  At a certain point the sodium drops out of the ocean water and falls to the bottom of the ponds.  There’s the rest of the stuff floating on top, that gets siphoned off–this is mag oil.  Apparently each product gets named depending on how much filtration it has had.  SeaCrop, Global Light’s mag oil, then Ancient Minerals mag oil.  Nigari falls in line at the end, because the mag oil has been further dehydrated into flakes.  And it is called food grade.  Sooooo–apparently they think all mag oil is food grade because they never state that they’ve put the liquid through any filters before drying into flakes–at least not that I have read.
Here’s from a site selling nigari flakes
Extracted from sea water by removing most or all of the sodium chloride and water, it contains primarily magnesium chloride plus all the other salts and trace minerals naturally found in sea water.
Natural nigari is derived from sea water and is the mineral-rich residue that slowly drips off moist sea salt and is then sun-dried. “

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Is turmeric the perfect spice?

Posted by Jonathan Chamberlain on February 17, 2009

Dr Mercola quotes Dr. David Frawely, founder and director of the American Institute for Vedic Studies in Santa Fe, New Mexico:

“If I had only one single herb to depend upon for all possible health and dietary needs, I would without much hesitation choose the Indian spice Turmeric. There is little it cannot do in the realm of healing and much that no other herb is able to accomplish.

Turmeric has a broad spectrum of actions, mild but certain effects, and is beneficial for long term and daily usage. Though it is a common spice, few people, including herbalists know of its great value and are using it to the extent possible. It is an herb that one should get to know and live with.”

For a list of its beneficial effects go to

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selenium and cancer

Posted by Jonathan Chamberlain on February 17, 2009

Selenium is not only protective against cancer it should be part of anyone’s anti-cancer treatment. But what form of selenium should you take? selenomethionine is the most bioavailable form –  the cheaper form, selenite, is only half as bioavailable. But selenite is certainly better than no selenium at all. In fact, you just have to take twice as much selenite as selenomethionine to get the same effect so now it comes down to cost. If selenomethionine is more than twice the cost of selenite, the bang per buck conclusion is to go for selenite. If on the other hand it is less than twice the cost…well, you can come to your own conclusion.

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Avemar and cancer

Posted by Jonathan Chamberlain on February 15, 2009

The Big Book: Cancer: The Complete Recovery Guide

The Small Book: Cancer Recovery Guide: 15 Alternative and Complementary Strategies for Restoring Health  –  For more information go to

“This book tells me everything. Why didn’t my doctor tell me this?”- Rev. Bill Newbern



Avemar (apparently named after Ave Maria) is gaining a name as an adjunctive anti-cancer therapy. This is a smart move on the part of the manufacturers who don’t want to be tarred with the ‘alternative’ label – however the fact remains that Avemar has measurable (indeed measured – by clinical research) anti-cancer effects. It is also true that Avemar is really nothing more than wheat germ extract that has been through a fermentation process – ie is not too different, as Vincent Gammill says, from German wheat beer. So if you don’t want to buy Avemar – you can follow Vincent’s instructions here:

Use  wheat germ. Fermentation is done with baker’s yeast (Saccharomyces cerevisiae).
This type of yeast is commercially available. The period of
fermentation varies: about 10-24 hours, preferably 15-20 hours or about
18 hours. The temperature of the fermentation should be about C. preferably about C. The weight ratio of the wheat germ and the yeast is 4:1-2:1, preferably about 3:1, the weight ratio of
the dry matter and water is 1:6-1:12, preferably about 1:9.

And there you have it – all (or most) of the benefits of Avemar without the cost.

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CellAdam – new cancer cure?

Posted by Jonathan Chamberlain on February 14, 2009

A Hungarian scientist has developed a product called CellAdam – available in both drops and cream – which he claims literally tears cancer cells apart. At US$55 a bottle, it might be worth a tryout – it’s not going to break the bank. For more details go to

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